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  1. Hawkesbury Jew

    Hey Guys, Have lost a few good ones at the boat recently so it was nice to get this one in the net. Fished the lower Hawkesbury on Wednesday mid morning on the run in tide. This fish took a live yakka pinned with a large single circle hook over a selection of fresh dead baits. It went 101cm's.....
  2. Got to rosebay boat ramp around 3pm. Did not start off to well as I left the boat key in the shed back home which was 1 hour away. Luckily I have a pull start Yamaha also. Got in amongst the boats at rose bay for yellow tail as usual, but they were not there. My theory is the current and wind was strong. Never the less fished with baits near Clifton and the wedding cake closest to it. For not much result. Refusing to accept defeat, at around 5pm I headed back to rosebay to try again for yakkas to try and have livies down at sunset which was also a change in tide. Got to rosebay, and noticed swarms of baitfish on the sounder in amongst the boats. The yakkas were back!! Managed to fill the live bait tank up with 8-10 and headed out to a reefy bottom near the first yellow bell as you go out towards the heads from rosebay. As soon as the first yakka hit the water, within minutes I was on, and landed my first jewfish at 73cm. we continued on landing a nice tailor and several spat hooks with scaled or skinned yakkas, we knew the jewfish were on the hunt below us. At sunset with a little light left, my last yakka got smashed. After a short fight I winched it our slob for the night. My PB jew at 82cm. What started off as bit of a disaster with the boat key and no yakkas or fish for a few hours ended up paying off really well!!
  3. Jewfish - Advice please

    Hi everyone, Have been after a sizeable shore Jewfish for a while now and I think I am getting closer. Had some interest in a bait tonight and just want some advice. I'm focusing on less fished spots and putting into practice all the wonderful information I have found here. The spot I am fishing is the edge of a narrow river section where it opens back up to a wider section, my thinking is that the current is too strong in this section when the tide runs so the changes are when the fish will make their moves through this deeper run to feed and move. There are plenty of mullet jumping out of the water, baitfish and prawns so the way I figure this is a great spot on the top or bottom of the tide, really the only time you could successfully get a good bait out into the middle. Onto tonight, I had 4 beautiful tough fresh as a daisy dead baits ready to fish the hour surrounding the bottom. Big solid pure Jewie morsals. Plenty of mullet jumping. My first bait was getting plenty of picks and the occasional pull by small bream who eventually shredded it. This happened to the next bait as well. I then lobbed out my prime bait dead on the turn. Everything became incredibly quiet and calm, the mullet stopped jumping and there was an instinctual sense that this was the right time. About a minute later a small consistent wait began to put pressure on my line. A small bit of line 10-20cm would occassionaly be pulled from the reel, but quite gently, distinctly different from a bream tap tap tug, but not with any pace or gusto. This was a weight which would slowly pull some line then stop, but the weight remained and after about a minute of this pop, the weight released. Bait despite being quite tough had all been taken. Now. SHOULD I HAVE STRUCK? I was waiting for a bit of accellaration, a proper run but each time I kept saying, just a little more. Was this likely a jew mouthing the bait or am I being hopeful? When the water is slack do they take it lightly? Just looking for any advice really so I don't keep going back for no reason. Cheers Raiders
  4. Caught this one off Cronulla/ Wanda beach last night right on high tide. Tailor fillet was the bait. 30 lb mainline, 40 pound leader, single 4/0 suicide hook, usual setup for my beach sessions length was 123 cm. this made my last PB of 1 meter (caught on 21/10/2017) stood for only two months Charles
  5. Hi Fishos, just want some help regarding buying bait, I don't have time or knowledge to try catch my own bait so was wanting some info. Where around Bankstown/ Canterbury/ Greenacre tackle shops can you buy some from time to time. Fresh squid as in they freshly caught it a day before and freeze it properly. On a side note - does anyone have any success in catching jewies using the lunds brand squid (blue box) thanks Tam
  6. HI Raiders, Hope everyone is doing good, I was fishing the other night in hacking and got this old man who started saying all of his stories and he was a great mate of our precious mate Jewgaffer (Byron) who we lost in 2013. heard some amazing stories of our champion may his sole 'Rest in peace' This man said that Jewgaffer(Byron) made a website. does anyone knows the name of it ? Please pass the name of the site will be muchly appreciated. Thanks, Tight line. Dil
  7. G'day raiders. Thought I'd share an unproductive, but potentially helpful day out on the river today. Dangar Island resident, former avid Fishraider (5 years ago). Been fishing but not talking a lot and a friend mentioned I should chuck a report up and give back to the community! Started out the day at West Head around 11am. Burleyed up for Yellowtail, heaps there but some rat Kings were giving the little fellas some hassle. Couldn't manage to stop them and an eel took the yakka we put near the rock on a floater (painful). On the run up tide fished the Juno drift (if you know it, you know it. Otherwise DM me for details). Jeez, I've never gone through yakkas so fast once dusk hit. Something big was hitting them all hard. Couldn't stop on a Shakespeare 20kg overhead rig and busted two of them before we called it quits (lack of gear). It's the first time I've seen Juno firing like that. I've had a lot of luck with Jewfish this season, but that drift on yakkas was very surprising. Highly recommend going and checking out Juno if you're looking for some fun. Next time I'll be bringing the 30kg rig in!
  8. So Sunday morning came. I'd organised to go fishing but wasn't feeling too motivated or enthusiastic. The winds would be too strong, it was already too late in the morning, the tides wouldn't be right. The usual list of reasons. But decided about 8am to head up to Akuna Bay then motor up to Brooklyn. Beautiful morning and the enthusiasm is on the way up. Picked up a packet of frozen prawns, thinking won't catch anything on these but got to try something. Arrived at the railway bridge about 9:30 at the peak of the runout, so thought why not drift through with some light lines. Might even pick up a flathead. Second drift through and I thought I'd snagged something. The little sow and pigs puller rod is bent right over so I'm thinking that it's a log when all of sudden it takes off. By the time we'd drifted right down to Dangar Island, I'd landed my first ever Jewie at 80cm! So the moral of the story is .... just get up, go fishing and you never know when you're going to be lucky!
  9. I've been heading out to the local fishing river for the past few weeks trying to land myself a jewfish. I understand that these fish are known to be incredibly elusive, with some fishermen spending up to months and even years without lady luck blessing their lines. I am not discouraged however, i'm more than certain that when the day comes where I feel the drag of a monster at the end of the line it will be worth it. Does anyone have any tips as to what rigs and bait to use whilst fishing for Jewfish? Any help would be appreciated. Cheers and good luck out there!
  10. Dear fraiders, As most of you I am really passionate about fishing and since I moved to pittwater area(few months ago) I have been fishing almost every day. After getting most of the common species now I want to go a step further and try to get the well known Jew fish. I know that this will take time and lots of patience but I am willing to do it. I have read lots of info here in the forum and I am ready to start I have the proper gear, rigs and bait (freshly caught squid and tailor). I will start today so if you have some extra recommendations about places to try, etc please send me a PM ( I will really appreciate it). Also I would be more than happy if any of you wants to join me (PM). Thanks again, Rafo
  11. Hey guys, Myself, and a few mates were able to get away over the weekend for some offroading, camping and fishing. We arrived late Saturday arvo and found a decent looking gutter. We rigged up, baited up and lines were in the water with daylight dwindling. Not much action that night except for a few Shovel Nose rays. With not much happening we kind of crashed watching our rods. Woke up early Sunday morning just before sunrise and baited the lines and sent them back out. As the sun peaked over the horizon my mate picked up his rod to take in some slack, he hadn't completed a full wind before the line went off with that sweet sweet buzzing sound. Whatever it was took off 100m down the beach and we gave chase. After that first run the line went really heavy, unsure what it was our initial thoughts were a big ray. After 5 or so minutes of little to no movement just dead weight, the line went off again, this time it went out. Providing what coaching I could I was telling my mate not rush he had time, but to maintain what pressure he could using the old kmart special. Lift and wind lift and wind in between the sound of beast taking line. 20 or so minutes into the battle, I catch a glimpse of the beast in the waves. The silhouette was unmistakable - I yelled for the gaf and it was brought over by one of the other guys. The battle seemed to last for hours, a couple of missed opportunities and a couple of more runs up and down the beach my moment came. The beast was exhausted, I waded out into the chest deep water and gaffed what would be the biggest fish I have ever seen in my life. I dragged the majestic creature through the breakers and onto shore. We didn't have scales, but our best guess was in the 30kg range. It measured in @ 142cm. Unfortunately we weren't able to release the creature, I think it came down to inexperience on our part on not knowing how to best land the fish so the prolonged fight left it exhausted. I was able to get it on ice fairly quickly after dispatching and cleaning so it made it back home to be split amongst 3 of us for the table. After that Sunday morning though the rest of the trip was relatively uneventful, a few whiting, couple more shovel nose rays and some fun with mullet on unweighted lines caught on bread (everything released as we definitely had enough for the table). Overall it was a memorable trip and looking forward to the next one. Thanks for reading. Nick
  12. G'Day Ladies and Gents, I've been pillaging these forums for hints and info for so long that I've felt it only right to start sharing back a bit of detail, be it useless or otherwise. I haven't been on the water much this year, but finished work and study around 2 weeks ago and have hit the harbour hard over the past two weeks. All in all, there were certainly kings around, but in general and compared to say last season they were hard work to both find and make bite. On the positive side all the standard locations were forthcoming with live squid (I don't really take bait, or lures, out fishing) and in basically ten days straight I didn't not get a decent quorum of willing (later very unwilling) team-mates in a short time. (This season most shops stock yamashita 1.5s and they're the bomb, throw your 2.5s away) I hit the water for the first time on about the 11th of Dec, and for three or four sessions straight couldn't find a king to save my life inside the heads despite lots of big action on the sounder. All charter mates reported good action on the inshore reefs but almost nothing inside (save one or two secret big successes which i daren't repeat in public). Temps inside were over 23c but just outside the heads were only 19c... Anyway i must have dragged thirty live squid and cuttles around for nada. depressing. A few days of big surface action between the wedding cakes, clearly kingfish, but live squid and strips were obviously not on the menu. Late dec got better, from the 15th to the 25th i didn't fish the harbour without boating a king (55-78cm no hoodlums) except the 23rd which after a long kingless day i was dragging the last dead remnants of my last livey over the bottom of some deep holes (sweep and pinkies have been angry in the lower harbour, killing and chewing all little live squid to bits in seconds and just leaving you dragging a mantle around) I had the strangest hit I've ever experienced, combination of real violence and total dead weight (thinking monster lizard? ray?) ended up being a Jew which went 95, very happy. (at like 11am go figure) Ive never caught, or targeted, Mulloway in my life but iIsuppose of you drag that many live squid around our estuaries one will show up eventually. Certainly can claim any Jew skill. Also had a small live squid ambushed at the south wedding cake by the biggest calamari I've seen in NSW. Have caught bigger in TAS but never here, this unit prob went 30cm mantle, a relic of last spawning. He came home for dinner. Anyway, there were fish around last few weeks but the kings were very hard to tempt, and live baits very very hard to get past the pickers. (Perhaps I should give more time to finding slimies and yakkas, at least the sweep and pinkys won't eat them.) Also, heaps of tailor to a very good (High 40s plus) size in middle harbour eating anything moving. Thanks for all your tremendous help over the years, I've taken so much info off you all i decided it was time to start feeding back. Have a good summer ladies and gents. On an interesting note after a week straight of good fish in the harbour, i went up to Pittwater to visit some family and fished every day for a week for nothing except a few choppers (again with good live squid baits every day.) Hard going up there with all the pros still at it i think.
  13. The Ghost of 2016.

    Happy New Year Raiders! It’s been a while since I have posted and one of my resolutions was to get out more, so here is a report based on what happens when you do. Kat and I have been waiting for this break for a very long time! We have been so busy with work and other projects that we have had very little time to fish together, or at all for that matter. This season I have had a very good run on the bass but not on a lot of other target species. We decided to fish Sydney Harbour with my brother so headed of the day before to stock up on some tackle, a few new lures and some new squid jigs. We received a bit of info from one of the guys at ‘On Duty Bait & Tackle’ that there were a few kings being caught in the harbour. Being that we were going out within the Boxing Day Sale period I had ‘NO CHOICE’ but to buy some new and heavier gear in the form of a Shimano Raider Rod and 5000 Reel. We left the house at 5am the next morning and by some freak change of heart I decided to scrap the Harbour plans and drove to the Hacking. We launched in Yowie Bay with the plans of catching live bait. I felt a little squeamish at the fact we had to rely on my captaining abilities to land squid and yakkas so we grabbed some prawns from the ‘Bait & Go’ machine just in case. My plans were to try for a few squid around Jibbon Beach but the swell was a little too big at this point to take the Tinnie close to the heads so we pulled up short at Salmon Haul. We anchored up and within a few casts the Mrs was on and this thing was massive! We ended up with a few lollypops and another bigger model over the hour but decided to send a few out in hopes for kings. We headed into one of the bays near some moored boats and got a burley trail going. Throwing over some pillie cubes and squid guts, a little action showed up on the sounder. We rigged up with some squid head and threw them overboard. Within a matter of seconds Kat was on and it sent the drag screaming. After a 10-minute fight we got it to the boat and she had her first taste of the silver ghost!!! We measured her at 68cm… Yewwwwww!!! Unfortunately, The fish leapt off the boat seat and down between the cross brace and floating floor that supports the motor. I tried to get the Jewie out carefully, unaware that its gill rakers had gotten caught on the other side of the brace. We swam her for 10-15 minutes to no avail, every time it swam off it went belly up. Shortly after this, the bite went off after tide change. The brother caught a small pinkie but that was it. It was still a little too choppy to get closer to the heads to try for kings so we called it quits. We decided to take the remaining squid home with the Jewie, which happened to end up as a sensational meal! If people would like to shed some light, my question is: What is the best possible outcome for an event like this? We filmed the fish not being able to swim off in case we ran into the fisheries department. Is this the correct protocol? Apologies for the novice question but we couldn’t find the information anywhere. Photos attached. Thanks, Paul.
  14. From Jewies to Sharks

    Hey Raiders, Been out for a while due to exams but managed a few sneaky jewie sessions in between. All of them were super rewarding! Got out to our spot in Cowan creek with a bit of time to catch bait, a lot of the time ended up catching big mullet or tailor which were used as slab baits. A bit before dark the insane jewfish runs start, caught several a couple of legal jews and several in the 60s. Have been teaching a mate to fish all winter, so for him to finally be rewarded by his first legal jewie was awesome. Also tried plastics and squid. Plastics had no success, caught occasional 60cm jews on the squid. None came close to the success of big slabs. To celebrate finishing exams, we headed down to a mates holiday house in Jervis Bay for a spot of fishing. Plan was to fish beaches, all day and see if we picked up bait for the bigger stuff at night. We caught plenty of dart on beach worms and pilly fillets which we put out at night in hopes of some shark. Got 3 takes the first night and didn't hook one. Feeling pretty defeated, we tried the same thing the next day. The strong offshore wind made casting a nightmare and coated the beach in blue bottles. But our persistance paid off with three sharks landed by the end of the night. Sorry for skimming over everything, cramming a few trips into one, hopefully plenty more to come this summer! Tag
  15. New setups

    Hey guys im looking at getting 1 or 2 new outfits to add to the arsenal. Mainly for lures and soft plastics. Im set up with a great combo for soft plastics on the bread and butter species and after learning how to use the plastics ive decided i want to also be able to target largwr jews and kingies. I know i can catch it with lighter gear but would like something specifically for these species to take along so of i see bust ups i dont have to re tie lures and its ready to go for kings. What decent setups would everyone consider? Im thinking a trion 3-6kg rod 3000 or 4000 stradic and 20lb braid main line? Just want to get opinions on what else i could get etc. Ive bee using metals and plastic stickbaits and popper but find my rod I'm using at the moment (veritas) to stiff and cant get good casts out. Might keep that one for the boat. Cheers fellas
  16. KAYAK Fishing

    Hi all, Just a quickie, I am quite new to the forums and have been willing to seek some knowledge from others. I was wondering whereabouts would be a great spot to start kayak fishing. I have currently got a couple of Yaks but yet to catch fish in any. I have been out a few times in Middle Harbour and Pittwater but I was unable to catch anything not even a single bite! I have a Garmin fishfinder but I am struggling to see anything. Could I please have any tips / recommendations on where to fish and how to fish the area. - Cheers, Kingierun

    Hi Raiders, I was just curious about the fishing around middle harbour. I am quite new to fishing middle harbour and I was just wondering if anyone had any spots up their sleeves that they wouldn't mind sharing . I have tried drifting through the spit with an SP slowing drifting down but had no luck! I have tried the buoys each side of the spit but had no luck. I don't really know the best way to approach fishing for jews whether it be lures, bait, etc. Any help is appreciated! Regards, KingieRun
  18. As a keen student on the frustrating Hawkesbury winter shutdowns, I've recently found the solution to tempting those hibernating bottom dwellers. Always fishing with plastic I thought I'd try the "Carolina rig" rather than just the standard plastic on a jighead. The Carolina rig is basically just a bait rig re-purposed for soft plastics and has always been popular with the Yanks for bass fishing when the fish are asleep. Run your mainline braid down to a swivel with a running bullet sinker and a glass bead. Below the swivel, a FC leader to an unweighted worm hook. The theory is that as you drift or retrieve, the sinker bounces along the bottom, stirring up the mud and sand while making a yabbie-like clicking sound as it hits the glass bead. Trailing about 30-60cm behind this is a tempting unweighted plastic fluttering along screaming "come and get me". Depending on the speed of the drift or retrieve you can vary the leader length to get the plastic closer or further away from the bottom. Its important that you use a soft plastic that floats and it doesn't matter how heavy the sinker is, as long as it makes the bottom, the plastic will still have great action. Great when the current is strong. The worm hook also allows you to rig "weedless" and the bullet sinker is friendlier when the bottom is snaggy. I've used this method since the June rains and have had the embarrassing problem of catching too many fish, mostly big flattys and mid sized Jew. The Lower Hawkesbury is a complicated system to fish in winter (unless you are hairtailing) and I've found that fishing the run in tide and chasing where the warmer sea water meets the colder river will reward you with winter fish. On the larger tides the big lizards have been heading into some of the creeks on the lower Hawkesbury, with Mullet and Mooney MooneyCreeks firing on the making tide. My only advice is to keep the leader heavier than you would in summer because the jew and lizards are bigger and really wake up when they near the boat. If you want to catch a few horse winter bream on the same rig, set another (2nd) much lighter leader to the top eye of the swivel about 60cm long with a smaller grub plastic and Mr Bream will join the party as your bottom rig bangs along the bottom. Tight Lines!
  19. Port Hacking - Nice by-catch!

    Hey Raiders, I hope you're all having a good weekend and managing some time out, on or near the water! Friday the 13th turned out to be lucky for me! I decided to head out on the kayak, launching from Gray's Point and heading downstream. I usually drift along the river here and pick up flatties and bream with the odd whiting thrown in. This day I wanted to head up around the corner to the deeper water between Gymea and Yowie bays. I've caught a kingfish there before and I wanted to try jigging for them again. There wasn't much action on the paddle along so decided to head straight for the area in about 16m of water. Got to my place and put a SP jig over the side to work its magic. Thought I might snag a snapper whilst I was there so lobbed a prawn over the other side on the light tackle rod, with 2500 baitrunner reel and sat back to enjoy the beautiful day. Sunshine, blue skies and no wind. After about 10 minutes the baitrunner has a touch and a bit of line is taken. Then a bit more. Then its off like mad! Kingy I thought and started to panic as its 4lb braid and 8lb fc leader. Take it easy I tell myself and don't fight it too hard. As I'm thinking all this and trying to stay calm the fish is getting tangled up in the SP line over the other side so I'm having to try and untangle and fight the fish at the same time, not easy in a kayak! Decided to chance it and put the rod in the holder while I untangled and prayed that it wouldn't get loose and spit the hook. Working as fast as I could I managed to untangle and bring in the SP line. Now, back to the fight. There was some decent weight in the fish and it started to slow and I was able to bring back some line. A few more half-hearted runs and I could see colour at last. Its length was good and nice a sliver and I was thinking "kingy"! But as it came up and then hit the surface I couldn't believe it - a jewie! Nice big, fat jewfish flapping on the surface. Cleared the decks on the kayak and out came the lip grips and brought it over the side. A quick measure and I reckon it was around 72cm, a PB for me and a legal fish! I had no ice, a small esky and so, after a few snaps, decided to let the lovely fish go and fight another day. A fantastic, lucky by-catch and had me smiling for the rest of the afternoon!
  20. Middle Harbour Jewie

    Went out for a flick in a spot of mine in middle harbour (near spit) and Paddled out on my little dinghy on Monday afternoon on the low tide. Brought with me just one soft vibe, some leader and pliers in the hope of picking up a jewie, was fishing in about 35ft and hopping the vibe back over a ledge I'd previously found. After about 2 hours, felt a little tap and then a solid weight on the other end, 2 long runs of zzzzzzz and 5 minutes later managed to bring him up, a nice jewies coming in between 60-70cm. A few quick snaps and back in the water he went and off to work I headed! I was using 10lb line and 10lb leader on a Stradic 3000 👊 Was a lovely afternoon out there with a slight breeze and beautiful sunset!
  21. Cowan Creek Firing

    Hey Raiders, Havent posted in a while, have had loads of Uni Assignments and have been volunteering with a marine bio lab in USYD doing photo analysis. Only times I've been able to get out have been late nights and for short periods, so have been sticking close to home, Cowan Creek. As a result, most my evenings are spent chasing Jewie or Hairtail. Last year i caught my first 2 hairtail just over legal, this year, have been doing A LOT better. Haven't fished any one spot, just move around looking for big schools of tailor, the hairtail are usually right under the. Caught probably close to 15 all between 1.1-1.6m but dropped countless more . Oh well that's fishing, catch em drop em it's such a good night out who cares! Been getting several Jewfish as well, no beasts, all under legal, mostly after lots of burley, when there are plenty of yakkas below the boat. Am teaching a friend to fish, he caught his first jew going 65cm, he was absolutely stoked, I am pretty sure at this point seeing the joy on a mates face after his first jewfish is just as good as any fish caught yourself! Also got a solid tailor going 55cm. Sorry for the mix-mash post! Cheers, Tag
  22. Atomic launches 60mm Vibe

    Yes it’s here! THE ATOMIC VIBE! This 60mm lure will have you wanting to throw it at any Freshwater or Saltwater situation! Coming in rattle or silent options it is available in all the fantastic colours in the Atomic range plus a few ‘New’ colours that will soon be covering every Atomic lure! The unique design of the Atomic Vibe allows it to be worked at high speeds for the offshore anglers and at a super slow speeds for any Freshwater situation keeping you in the Strike zone for a lot longer than other Vibration styled lures on the Market! Check out the release of these bad boys at the AFTA Trade show 2015 Be sure to check them out at your nearest tackle shop soon!
  23. Cowan/Hawkesbury

    Hey guys, With all the rain about where are all the fish hiding? I cant figure the hawkesbury out at all .. and everytime i take the boat i seem to catch nothing.. I saw some massive scales obviously from a large jewfish at the ramp cleaning table but alas i do not know where to find any jews let alone anything else.. any help would be greatly appreciated p.s. with all the fresh water about is anyone catching hairtail? Tight Lines Reubs
  24. kendalls beach kiama

    Just wondering if has had any experience with kendalls beach at kiama i was told it was a top jew spot but i have had a look at the beach and it doesn't look like one at all?
  25. The Entrance 2015 SOCIAL

    THE ENTRANCE SOCIAL DETAILS VENUE: The Entrance, Central Coast, NSW DATE: 15th, 16th, 17th May 2015 FORMAT: Beach and estuary, early bird and gentleman's hours SPECIES: Biggest Bream and Biggest Flathead and Biggest Whiting (estuary) measured from nose to tail Biggest Salmon or Tailor or Jewfish (beach) and now we have added Blackfish to the mix MEETING POINT: Dunleith Caravan Park at the end of Hutton Road, The Entrance North START TIME: 12 noon Friday till 10am Sunday 3 day event, details TBA Book accommodation at Dunleith Caravan Park. There are Villas, Ensuite Units, Campsites available. Book early to get a good spot on 4332 2172 Make sure you tell Rebecca or the booking staff that you are from fishraider Park Map is found HERE Stewy and I are booked into Waterfront Villa 5 This is a family event - please feel free to bring wives, husbands, partners, grandmas and grandpas and kids ATTENDEES The Swordies (Donna and Stewy) Sean and Lisa Scratchie and gang (Sat only) Camo1808 + best mate Teflon (Sat only) Geoff and Lyn With a and nbdshroom Cath and Dusky Ryder and Jacqui Dynabolt +1 Swano and Debbie Buttsy and better half Steve Johndory and Wayne Salty Dog and Anne + Chantelle and Madison Stapo (weed gatherer) plus mate Joep tide'n'knots and Lesley(weed bringer as well ) jeffb5.8 flatheadfred bretto101 ajonesy and Dad and 2 mates