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Raiders have recently been reporting that anchor ropes have been severed by persons unknown, suspected to be divers.

I contacted NSW Maritime Authority and spoke to Mr Marcus Cahill. He stated that this practice of anchoring and allowing divers underneath anchored vessels is not illegal. It is regarded as a courtesy issue.

Cutting of anchor ropes is a criminal offence and is reportable to the NSW Maritime body within 24 hrs. The link below is the downloadable forms available to report.

From the application link below find Miscellaneous Forms and download the VESSEL INCIDENT FORM and the WITNESS STATEMENT FORM.

CLICK HERE FOR FORMS

Gather as much information, including pictures and description of the vessel, registration number etc. All forms received will be investigated.

Send completed forms to

Marine Investigations Unit

NSW Maritime,

Locked Bag 5100

Camperdown, NSW, 1450

OR

fax to (02) 9563 8699

Mr Marcus Cahill suggested that if enough letters of concern are received by the Authority, the laws regarding distances between anchored boats and divers may be reviewed.

Should you wish to voice an opinion on this issue, send a letter to

Mr Brett Moore

General Manager Recreational Boating

Locked Bag 5100

Camperdown, NSW, 1450

Cheers swordfisherman

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Guest maraudingmado

I am sure there are heaps of good divers out there it's just that I have never come across any. I have had them hold up the launching and retrieving of friends boat(on several occassions) whilst they chat and load/unload boat on ramp and the old "lets dive right where these guys are fishing" :1badmood::1badmood:

We even rescued a woman diver down Jervis Bay a few years ago. She lost her mermaid line and was carried down current. She was exhausted when she surfaced at our boat approx 1000 yards from her dive boat. Brought her on board and took her back to dive boat. She thanked us profusely and offered free drinks at Husky Pub. Went back to where we were fishing and a mako of about 10ft surfaced for a feed. We didn't go for the free drinks as my mate wasn't a drinker :thumbdown::thumbdown:

I suppose it's like all walks of life there is the good and bad

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That was a very nice gesture to rescue that poor woman and hopefully the dive boat people would do the same for a fisho in distress .I wanna make this quite clear here and now !! This is not a dive boat or divers bashing session ,its a way of reporting very poor judgement on the part of a selected few and we all can share the waterways together :thumbup:

Cheers Swordfisherman

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Guest fishrunner

Thanks Swordfisherman,

Info much appreciated, didn't think there was anything to stop a dive operator from directing divers to dive a certain area reguardless of anchored boats already in the area.

I've fished speared and scuba over the past 20 years and have never had a problem like this before, 99% of divers are fine and have good etiquite, you know what they say "one bad apple".

Don't need to go into it, downloaded those forms, and will be more informed if this was to happen again.

cheers

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Thanks Swordfisherman,

Info much appreciated, didn't think there was anything to stop a dive operator from directing divers to dive a certain area reguardless of anchored boats already in the area.

I've fished speared and scuba over the past 20 years and have never had a problem like this before, 99% of divers are fine and have good etiquite, you know what they say "one bad apple".

Don't need to go into it, downloaded those forms, and will be more informed if this was to happen again.

cheers

Happy to have been of assistance and hopefully a few letters in the right direction could get the ball rolling :biggrin2:

Cheers Swordfisherman

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Guest Jewel

Champion effort Stu!!!!

I didnt have room in the freezer for a diver anyway!!!!

Thanks for that mate. :thumbup::thumbup:

Mick

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Champion effort Stu!!!!

I didnt have room in the freezer for a diver anyway!!!!

Thanks for that mate. :thumbup::thumbup:

Mick

:Funny-Post: No worries Mick ,just hope this doesnt happen again

Cheers Swordfisherman

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a bunch of divers sat and watched from about 5 mtrs away, as I got severely messed up whilst trying to get my boat on the trailer in rough weather, I got stuck underneath the boat. a kayaker eventually came to my rescue, all the way from the carpark. I was bruised, wet and cut on my legs. where are all the good divers? i only seem to meet the bad ones

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I am 62 and remember my early spearfishing days when everyone helped anyone who looked like they needed it at the boat ramp; without questions asked. Now sadly it is common to see sniggering finger-pointing smartalecs when someone is struggling.

Let's all set an example: when someone gets it wrong at the boat ramp let's go and offer help. Tell them about some of our own mistakes. Make them feel good. Send them on their way with a boosted faith in humanity.

It will make the fishing better in so many ways. and the fish will taste better too!

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I am 62 and remember my early spearfishing days when everyone helped anyone who looked like they needed it at the boat ramp; without questions asked. Now sadly it is common to see sniggering finger-pointing smartalecs when someone is struggling.

Let's all set an example: when someone gets it wrong at the boat ramp let's go and offer help. Tell them about some of our own mistakes. Make them feel good. Send them on their way with a boosted faith in humanity.

It will make the fishing better in so many ways. and the fish will taste better too!

Great 1st Post Sealegs and :1welcomeani: to Fishraider

Cheers Blood Knot

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People like this involved  I would not consider as a DIVER.  I am a certified Wreck diver as well a certified deep diver, first response first aid and a rescue and recovery diver.. and stories like this just piss me off.  We learn these skills to help other and protect not just the environment, but also others when needed..

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I'm also a diver, spearfisherman, rod and line fisherman. I must admit that in my area (Montague island) diving tourism has increased dramatically over the last couple of years, with it problems are starting to arise. The divers and dive boat operators now seem to see the area as their own property and even fall out with other dive boats let alone any spearfishermen or anglers wanting to wet a line.

I personally introduced a mate to a shore dive that I regularly catch lobsters at that also holds around 12 greynurse sharks at. This person has gone on to start a dive business where both him and his clients are now trying to turn this area into a sanctuary zone. I know of many commercial abb and urchin divers who simply won't inform anyone of such findings and I certainly won't be sharing such info.

The northern end of Montague can be subject to raging currents a times where divers get swept far from their boats. Last year I took at least 15 divers back to the charter operators who wouldn't piss on my boat if it was on fire. Never had a thanks or even an acknowledgement from any skipper, they simply blame the divers. 

My last rescue of divers was in an extreme tidal flow against a strong NE wind, my daughter spotted the two divers in conditions that looked like Narooma bar on a bad day. I notified two charter boats that refused to head into the rough zone, the boat they had come from still had divers down meaning that the skipper couldn't assist. I made the call we would head in and just pull them onboard like a surf rescue then come straight back out. All went to plan though we did take a full dump side on that filled my rib to the top of the tubes, self daring soon cleared that and we got got clear. The divers were in shock and exhausted, the skipper of the boat then reported us for spearing fishing close to his divers even though we were there first.

From now on any rescue I do will be fully reported to maritime and I hope other members on here do the same.

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I love to spearfish it is quite simple dive were there are no boats it is really not that hard we dive on the central coast we have found spot were there are no boats and that it is safe to dive yeah sure we don't shoot kings or anything like that more bread and butter fish,. you have to think if I was driving a boat today in this spot would it be safe for both diver and fisho??

there are always bad apples with everything including divers and fishos lets find these turds and take there gear off them plus a fine.

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Holy old thread, Batman! 😂

I had a customer the other day who was anchored up fishing in Nelson Bay with his kids, when divers swam out from shore and started diving under their boat. Strange, they thought. Eventually they realised they were drifting towards the heads and that their rope had been cut. They phoned the police who turned up fairly promptly (must have been a slow day). The cops made the divers go out and recover their anchor. Don’t know if they were prosecuted.

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I have mates who used to dive and they had stories about fishos cutting their dive lines, trolling over the top of them and hooking them, intentionally trying to hit them throwing giant sinkers... You get the picture. They also talked a lot about fishing boats dropping anchors on reefs and tying off to dive lines that ripped out due to the pull of the boat. I can understand why some divers get a chip on the shoulder. 

I view them a bit like cyclists on the road. They're allowed to be there, and most of the time they don't cause any issues, although there are certainly some dickheads among them. And just as the cyclist is ultimately at the mercy of the cars for their safety, divers can quite literally be at the mercy of us fishos. They have good reason to be defensive. 

Another way to look at it might be that fishos are to divers what jet skiiers are to fishos. They can be just as keen to get us banned as some of us are to get the jet skis banned. We can go a long way toward making things better for both sides by being respectful, policing ourselves and making sure that as a community we're not inflaming the situation. 

I think we also need to make sure that when divers are breaking the law or being reckless we report it to LE and leave it with them to provide consequences. Let them feel the heat when its deserved. 

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