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Here's a link to a series of 4 short videos by Dr Greg Vinall. He explains how colour is impacted in different water depths, wave conditions and discolouration levels. I found it interesting, what do you think? BN                        www.makewoodenlures.com                           www.makewoodenlures.com/color.html                    

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Very interesting material Neil.

Thanks for posting this.

 

Cheers

 

Jim

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Thanks for sharing Neil.

 

what about white is that visible in deep water or also grey?

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7 hours ago, flatheadluke said:

Thanks for sharing Neil.

 

what about white is that visible in deep water or also grey?

G'day Luke, All the colours in the spectrum, put together form "white light". So they all go grey in deep water...BN

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Thanks BN.

Does white go grey before or after blue? And Im confused about the colour changing vs visibility. Is a blue a less intense grey than say yellow in deep water?

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G'day Luke. White is what we see when we receive all 7 colours  at the same time. (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet). Because white contains all 7 colours it will go grey earlier than blue (on it's own). That's also the order that they become grey when submerged into the depths. I e...red appears grey long before blue or indigo or violet. The different colours appear grey earlier (shallower) in freshwater than in saltwater. It's all about the amount of available light at different depths.

The intensity of the grey would only be marginally different for any of the colours because of the wave length of each colour.

What I got from the article was what I believe to be the case...colour of lures is only relevant /effective at the appropriate depth and conditions for that colour to appear as that particular colour. In other words a red lure is ok in say 5 m of water whereas if you were using it at 25m, it would only appear grey (and not red) anyway.

Much more important than colour is how the lure is presented in front of a hungry fish. Hope that helps. BN

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I actually read that most of the fish see the things like dogs i.e. black&white - therefore most of the coloured lures are made to catch fisho's wallet rather than a fish.

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On 12/1/2016 at 8:57 PM, savit said:

I actually read that most of the fish see the things like dogs i.e. black&white - therefore most of the coloured lures are made to catch fisho's wallet rather than a fish.

I think you're right too Savit. Colour has little effect in deep water, but probably has limited effect in shallower waters. BN

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l think you guys are bang on. Colours mainly catch fishermen

On Sunday, December 04, 2016 at 7:28 PM, big Neil said:

I think you're right too Savit. Colour has little effect in deep water, but probably has limited effect in shallower waters. BN

. But i think contrasts catch fish. Stripes, spots,bleeding gills and contrasting tails. Flouro seems to make a difference in dirty water but as for pink or yellow flouro I'm not sure.  Gold and silver are an exception as thats flash not colour. Any thoughts or am i way off?

Matt

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2 hours ago, Mr Mullit said:

l think you guys are bang on. Colours mainly catch fishermen

. But i think contrasts catch fish. Stripes, spots,bleeding gills and contrasting tails. Flouro seems to make a difference in dirty water but as for pink or yellow flouro I'm not sure.  Gold and silver are an exception as thats flash not colour. Any thoughts or am i way off?

Matt

Hi Matt. I don't think there's a single answer to the question "does colour impact on fish taking or leaving a lure?"

For instance squid have big eyes and amazing vision. They can even change colour themselves. So (most likely colour plays a big part in catching them). 

Where I fish in freshwater there's always some level of murkiness in the water. Fish are very efficient at picking up movement and vibration via their lateral line. In this case I don't think that colour makes as much difference as movement and vibration.

Don't forget that you don't have to go very deep in water to be in total darkness. True, fish that live in these environments can see much better than we can, at that depth...but I still think that in many cases fish respond instinctively. If they don't attack it another one may.

You're right about colours catching fishermen LOL. Myself included. Cheers, Neil

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l think you guys are bang on. Colours mainly catch fishermen

On Sunday, December 04, 2016 at 7:28 PM, big Neil said:

I think you're right too Savit. Colour has little effect in deep water, but probably has limited effect in shallower waters. BN

. But i think contrasts catch fish. Stripes, spots,bleeding gills and contrasting tails. Flouro seems to make a difference in dirty water but as for pink or yellow flouro I'm not sure.  Gold and silver are an exception as thats flash not colour. Any thoughts or am i way off?

Matt

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Me too! I %%%%% my fingers everytime I  open my tackle box. 

I think half the fun in fishing is trying to work it out. If only fish could talk. I'll keep trying 

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I genuinely did not realise colour had any impact at all with lures. I usually just pick the shiniest ones, but for me not the fish.

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On 2/24/2017 at 6:00 PM, Mr Mullit said:

l think you guys are bang on. Colours mainly catch fishermen

. But i think contrasts catch fish. Stripes, spots,bleeding gills and contrasting tails. Flouro seems to make a difference in dirty water but as for pink or yellow flouro I'm not sure.  Gold and silver are an exception as thats flash not colour. Any thoughts or am i way off?

Matt

I work on the principle that if it is working, keep using it...if not, change it and try something else. Too many variables and none of us can think like a fish, eh? BN

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I fished for cod two weeks ago.slightly dirty water overcast day.every expert says dark lures for these conditions but we could only get fish on bright lures  go figure..rick

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thanks for the post BN

its very interesting

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5 hours ago, rickmarlin62 said:

I fished for cod two weeks ago.slightly dirty water overcast day.every expert says dark lures for these conditions but we could only get fish on bright lures  go figure..rick

G'day Rick. The only experts on whether a fish will take a particular lure or not, at any given time, IS A FISH. You and I know that we can use some theory as a starting point, but sticking to it when it's not working, is a dumb option. If fishing was as simple as some "experts" make out, we'd soon get bored by it. Cheers, BN

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