G'day Raiders, To start with, I'd like to say a very sincere thank you to the Fishraider community... I'm a long-term reader & the knowledge I've found on this site, on just about every conceivable topic, has helped my game immensely! As the title suggests, I'm after a couple of land-based spots that I can fish at Patonga both on the pm low tide & after dark (i.e. the evening high tide then the run out). I've had consistent success on the a.m high tide fishing at the creek mouth for Flatties & Tailor, for this I've used fresh nippers & salted pilli respectively. The first issue I'm having is finding a good spot to fish at the lunchtime low tide - on occasion I have been able to wade out to the drop off that runs parallel to the mouth of the creek about 25-30m off the beach, however I've found you can only reach it when the swell's really low. If any Raiders have other spots that work when the water's low in the afternoon, I'd love to hear about it (e.g. I've heard good things about Dark Corner but have never tried it out). Secondly, I'm trying to find a good spot to fish after dark (pm high tide & run out)... Again, I've had some patchy success fishing in the creek channel off the back of the camping ground but wondered if there was anywhere else I should be trying (e.g. does the creek mouth work well on the pm high tide, the same way it does in the morning)? Again, my primary targets are Flattie & Tailor, using nippers & salted pilli but more than happy to take breaming spots & am open to different baits etc. Cheers, Jb