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  1. kingfishbig

    kingfish setups

    Another thought is that if you want to spin and livebait with the one outfit you could go with a medium size star drag overhead. I got a Newell 338 at the markets the other day for just $35 spooled with 30 lb braid. You could use the braid as backing and run a top shot of 30 lb mono and it would hold enough line to stop a northern bluefin tuna. It will cast heavy poppers and stickbaits quite well. A while back I got an ABU 9000C for $45 which would also fit the bill. On his budget there would be plenty left over for a heavy overhead spin rod.
  2. kingfishbig

    kingfish setups

    Actually overheads are popular for jewies off the breakwalls on the north coast (handle the very heavy lines better). Also you say lever drags are way better for tuna, but if you are livebaiting off the rocks how do you know a tuna is not going to take the bait? Also the ergonomics, mechanics of an overhead (or a threadline for spinning) are much better. One example is with a lever drag overhead you can leave it in free spool with the ratchet on and a tiny bit of drag unattended in a rod holder, with an Alvey this would be problematic and it is tiresome holding on to a rod all day. In other words I still think it is making it hard for yourself using an Alvey. PS: I have several Alveys but they just sit in the cupboard these days, I think this is the same for a lot of fishermen.
  3. kingfishbig

    Advice needed for buying a fishing boat

    You can always get two boats. Fishing skinny water (especially with lures) and long range offshore fishing is a bit hard to do in one boat. For the former a tinnie or even a kayak won't cost much and then you won't have to compromise on offshore fishing.
  4. kingfishbig

    Advice needed for buying a fishing boat

    Really? As I said he didn't say anything about lure fishing for bream and flatties (that's what I mean by shape shifting).
  5. kingfishbig

    Advice needed for buying a fishing boat

    This is argumentative. For a start you are shape shifting. I didn't say get a 6 boat, I said a 5.4 to 5.8 m boat. And I said that a 4.6 open pressed tinnie is not very suitable for long range outside fishing now you give the example of 4.8 to 5.3 m. Also he didn't mention anything about spinning for bream and flatties. You seem to be offering some very convoluted reasoning as to why my advice is invalid just because it is different to other posters. Why not take it on board than just trying to dictate?
  6. kingfishbig

    Advice needed for buying a fishing boat

    There are things outside your personal experience. I have seen it happen and when I was learning the ropes virtually every experienced offshore/ game fishermen warned me about it.
  7. kingfishbig

    Advice needed for buying a fishing boat

    The problem with going a long way out in a small boat (eg the 12 mile in a 4.6m pressed tinnie) and putting faith in the weather forecast is the winter westerly winds. They can pick from light to strong/ gale force without warning and without being forecast. You have little lee effect that far out, you can't out run it and you have to head straight back into very steep chop. The light weight, short length, lack of protection and shallow V of that style of boat will make this very hard going.
  8. kingfishbig

    Advice needed for buying a fishing boat

    "I agree offshore rigs provide better protection from the weather and yepp definately an option.... but i wouldnt go so far as to say an open side or centre co sole are unrealistic or unsafe options". No, not if it's big enough, but I was referring to open pressed tinnies around 4.6 m which have limited offshore capability irrespective of whether you get wet or not. Although some wave breaking structure does add to safety. "Also i wouldnt really describe it as "getting away with" or "pushing the limits". In the right conditions and with an experienced skipper operating a vessel inside or outside would be the same". Well if the conditions are right then you can go as far as much fuel you can carry - but it's not really the point. Conditions can turn for the worse. "I would compare this with the following example. I would like a new but second hand car to use for family and kids but would also like some towing capability for the 2-3 times a year". "The best fit for the above would not be a ute such as a Hilux or F250 with 200,000km on the odo??" Depends what you are towing. If you are towing illegally/ exceeding the capabilities then even once is too often. Also the boat I recommended would be better for in close offshore fishing ie you won't be limited by the weather so much, be more comfortable. "From what i have observed, 90% of boating incidents occur due to skipper negligence and ironically occur inshore (collisions, surf conditions along bars and cliffs etc)". You could add hull/ equipment failures. Also adverse conditions are not unrelated to boat size as has been discussed.
  9. kingfishbig

    Advice needed for buying a fishing boat

    Imagine coming back from the 12 mile under those conditions! Hence my suggestion.
  10. kingfishbig

    Advice needed for buying a fishing boat

    Well I was just pointing out there is the option of going for something older but significantly more capable. At least he will be less limited by the weather, which is seldom ideal off Sydney. I don't quite follow the logic of because you have gotten way with pushing the limits/ capabilities multiple times makes it a good idea. I was just watching a documentary on the Challenger disaster where an expert described a lot of such sloppy thinking at NASA which contributed to the disaster.
  11. kingfishbig

    Advice needed for buying a fishing boat

    Well he has asked for advice and mine is (as I explained) his requirements are a bit unrealistic. PS: you can no way be sure that the seas will remain calm when you are going that far offshore.
  12. kingfishbig

    Advice needed for buying a fishing boat

    I don't think an open pressed tinnie is really suitable for going that far out (especially in winter when the deep reefs fish the best). I'd be looking at a fiberglass or plate alloy boat with a deep V around 5.4 to 5.8 m with a runabout or cuddy cabin design. The budget given means you will have to look at something a bit older/ higher hours but a least it will be capable for the job.
  13. kingfishbig

    Overhead outfit advice

    It depends a lot on the style of fishing with respect to the braid or mono question. Deep water bottom bashing is where braid shines but in other applications mono might be a better choice. If using braid I will go for a reel with a level wind as it is easier on your fingers and there is less chance of getting bait on your line and inviting leatherjackets to bite through it. This can happen a lot and can get a bit expensive. A good alternative is one of the low stretch lines mono such as the one Platypus makes. It has some braid like characteristics (easier to feel bites), but the leatherjackets will leave it alone.
  14. kingfishbig

    kingfish setups

    I mentioned the Pfluger Salt and someone suggested a Fin Nor Lethal both have good drags and come in well under $200. Also for livebaiting I suggested looking second hand for an overhead. Yes you need to go a bit longer in rod length on the north coast but a 12ft beach rod will make little impact on a big kingie due to the leverage factor. Also an Alvey will be very unwieldy for constant spinning and also hampered with low retrieve rate and line twist. Overheads are more efficient for fighting big fish too. There is a reason you hardly ever see Alveys used for this style of fishing (either spinning or livebaiting).
  15. kingfishbig

    kingfish setups

    I don't think an alvey would be very suitable, especially with a beach rod that gives away a lot in leverage. For live baiting a lever drag game reel is the go, at the cheaper end a Shimano TLD 25 or you could look second hand. For a rod to match you want a 7.5 to 8.5 ft LBG rod rated at 15-24 kg. For spinning I would choose a threadline with a good drag, perhaps a Pfluger Salt in one of the larger 2 sizes and 50 lb braid. A GT style popper rod would be a good match. Given you budget have a look at the Gladiator heavy popper rod.