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If you what the chargrill effect on an occy but dont want to get a BBQ then just get a cast iron grillit, you get plenty of char if you use high enough heat

Air fry is just a convection oven...

With Greek style you get burnt and smoked bits of occy... so you won't achieve this with an "Air Fryer".... The best results is coal cooked Greek Style Occy... 

The path starting at B is the right way to go. It is sketchy but its doable. Alternatively you can walk from the frazer campgrounds

Please note that the place just like snapper point has a poor reputation as has taken many lives

Firstly if you don't want smelly baits just use Endeavour or Banana prawns... Prawns will catch fish from the beach no issues.

Secondly

Rod - Wilson is a quality and durable rod, but that rod may be big heavy over time so it will depend on how long you plan to fish from the beach on a session.

My recommend rod a travel 3 piece rod thats 2-4kg if you are just surf fishing gutters. Something like a Shimano Raider Travel Spinning Rod 2-4 / 5-8kg 3 piece would be a good guideline. The heavier rod would enable you take larger fish if you wanted too...

Reel - I love the Sphereos and its bigger brother the Saragosa. But a 5k off the beach is a bit excessive. Also the reel is a heavy reel for standing on the beach hours on end. Understand why you went that way since you want to use mono which doesn't fit much on a smaller reel (2-3k).

Two things to consider

1. If you want to go mono i would recommend go the new lighter Alveys

2. If you don't mind switching to braid. Go a 4k Ultegra Shimano or a 3k Caldia Daiwa. Both reels a much lighter but have respectable capacity for braid

Lures - Lures are built to capture the fisho... So don't get to fancy on them unless you are a gear junkie... I would recommend a Halco Twisty to start, a Daiwa double clutch diver for inlet beaches for flathead (it's a light lure so recommend for a 2-4 rod), Gilles surf popper, Rapala X-Rap XR8 etc...

Get a shoulder bag a small tackle box and go have some fun mate!

Places to avoid eating apparently...

1. West of the Harbour Bridge

2. Cooks River

3. Upper reaches of the Georges River

I don't know personally, fish migrate a fair bit... I still avoid eating fish from the above places but sometimes i wonder lol

Find the below and just use pliers

I use zman mostly but use a scent like sfactor or saxs

I used to use a lot of gulps but keeping them useful was hard. Even tried putting them in sealed containers cos the ziplocks wear and they destroyed the plastic containers i used...

On 12/4/2018 at 5:35 PM, savit said:

I would agree with fish condition difference. However who cleans the caught fish 48hrs later ???

Aging fish is a thing

51 minutes ago, seasponge said:

Does the heart keep pumping after the brain spike??

Basically no, immediate death. The fish relaxes and stops all motion.

Inox / Lanox will disperse grease... so if it goes get into your reel, the grease will disppear and ruin your reel...

Example from Daiwa

Both Dee Why Pool and Avalon Beach Rock pool has weed.

Suggest Dee Why as you don't have to go into the pool to get it as its located just outside the drain

Drummer can be taken off the rocks inside the harbour... got to find them.

If you are fishing with weed, well your size 8-10 is ideal because of the bait. Large drummer will tend to render these hooks useless if they put up a good fight.

Anyways I've used size 4-1/0 with bread and have caught both drummer and as a by catch luderick

 check this guy out, his using 1/0s and landing luderick

As said previous... Wet suits do NOT work unless wet...

Would be better to get synthetic thermals / active wear which wick very quickly for both bottom and top...

My light weight fishing wear is as below

- Icebreaker thermals top and bottom - base layer

- fishing top - mid layer

- Montbell ultra light synthetic down jacket

- Water and wind proof hiking pants

- Rain jacket for those extra wet days

BTW i tried neoprene surf wear in 3mm, it was way to restrictive and i couldnt scramble over rocks and boulders...

Where do you get this berley cage from?

thanks so much!

All the way to the black!

Great smoked and great as sashimi... Anyone that say's otherwise hasn't eaten it or doesn't know how to handle fish and is just spewing "age old" rhetoric. One of the most sustainable fishes to eat as well.

As an example for what proper preparation can do to a fish, look at blue fin tuna. For  a time it was considered cat food...

2 hours ago, smack19 said:

So, thanks again to all for the help! I haven't yet decided but thanks to everyone's replies, I think I now have a better idea now of what I am after. Either I'll just use the BG 2500 that I have, or might see if the store will accept exchange for the BG 3000 instead. As for rods, searching so far I've found the likes of Daiwa Sweepfire and Crossfire or Shimano Catana and Maikuro to be in the 10.5'-12', 3-5kg/4-7kg range and $80 to $120 price so I guess it comes down to the hardware and action?

All those models you've listed will do fine. If you want something a bit tougher then get a Gary Howard or if you can track one down the Alvey glas rod in mid mount.

A 3000 BG would suit the style of fishing better mate.

Other things you should get for beach fishing is a shoulder bag, a small tackle box and SS pliers!

If you need someone to fish with send me a PM and well sort something out.

Done!

Get a phone dry bag. Don't buy a waterproof case for your particular phone.

Saragosa is one of the best sealed reels on the market at that price point. The only other to compete is the Slammer 3.

The stradic on the other hand is not sealed to the same extent. You cannot treat the reels the same unfortunately.

The question what do you do after your finish using the reel?

6-15kg is a little heavy for a bit of beach fishing mate.

I'd aim for a 4-6kg rod 10'6" would be suitable. Rapala The Gutter would work

4500 would be a better size in the BG series for beach and rock

Mullet are coming through so the pelagic's are running around... tuna getting pulled from the near reefs as well as from shore . Fads are still firing well but may be removed soon.

Drummer fishing is starting up if you like fishing of the stones and as we all know, May is the time of the mulloway...

If you're distance casting in the surf, then Braid is recommended. If you're fishing in close or medium distances then mono is fine.

Mono would be easier to manage for novice as you wont need to worry about joining leaders etc.

The Thunnus 14000 is rated to carry 10kg / 240m of mono, i don't know what thickness that is but 240m of mono is more than enough if you're not distance casting.

I would suggest a cheaper supple mono for a novice. Look at Sunline, Suffix and Platypus as well as the lines you've suggested.

BTW not to stomp on your choices, but that setup is less then ideal for a novice, if you can swap the reel for a 6000 sized one I would do so. 14000k is excessive for beach fishing unless your fishing for sharks, rays etc..

What will you use the setup for?

Father and Son fishing. Favourite so far!