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Went and grab a saragosa last night, got it on a huge discount 😉. Then going up the coast in a couple weeks on bday to go pick out a rod. So far though, the saragosa feels a grade above the slammers.

Kings, tailor, bream, whiting,

How long is the rod? I send out 50g jigs on a 150-300g rod, but it's close to 9ft so I can maintain a reasonable distance, but in saying that, I am changing to a different setup. Because that rods for lifting kings up onto the rocks. Anything silver is best for Bonnie's, like the halcos.

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For sale, alvey snapper reel, fibreglass and stainless steel, paired with a Berkeley cherry wood rod. Combined $80 ono. The reel is in good condition, but is showing signs of cosmetic wear, as depicted in the pictures. The rod is also showing signs of cosmetic wear, but all the guides are intact and in good condition. The rod is 5ft 3" long and has a line rating of 15-30lbs. Pickup is in Cherrybrook, but if needed, postage is available, but pickup is preferred. Also i would prefer to sell as a combo. Please contact me here.

Yeah, but considering I can get the Saragosa for $20 extra than the spheros, of there's no other benefits, I know which one on picking 😂.

Looking at the spheros, it's only 5g lighter than the same size Saragosa. Is there any other benefits of the spheros over the gosa? I can get the Saragosa for the same price as the spheros. Will reply to the rest when I get home.

Are they the $4 hooks from the 4 letter department store? Because if they are, I've had them bent straight by trevally off long reef. They used to be a lot better but recently I've found that they snap or bend.

I've used double unis on kings, snapper, rays. Never had an issue. Even double uni braid to fluro works well for lighter line. Light - heavy leader defeats the purpose of using light leader. You are just introducing another weak point into your line. You are best just to go main line to heavier leader, try 6-8 lbs fluro. That will give you a better chance than 4 lbs.

My guess for that Yakka would be a ray as it looks a bit squished. Crabs tend to year chunks off, whole other fish also tend to take chucks out as well.

Wouldn't you Wouldnt you just do a double uni knot? If going mono to fluro? Just so Im understanding the issue, are you trying to do braid -> light leader -> heavier leader Or braid -> heavier leader -> lighter leader? So if your loosing gear, due to the leader snapping, the fatties are biting through your leader or breaking you off. Or are you trying to make like a sacrificial leader that goes to your hook and has stronger leader between that and your main line?

Never actually met someone who owns a ulegra, but often wondered exactly where they fit in. From what I understand, they are a long casting reel, much like the spinfisher long cast, hence the deeper spool. The part I I'm curious about it what decision led you to go with the ulegra over say a bait runner, particularly if fishing large baits for Jewfish? I would have thought the bait runner feature would have been more desirable? Sorry to be a pain, but if you don't mind, what are the best and worst parts of the prevail Apex, I have been meaning to try one but haven't had time. Abu Garcia says that they still are producing the veritas but as I said, o haven't been able to track one down in person. Personally for me, when surf casting, or any lure casting for say tailor, salmon, Jewfish, anything in that medium size class, I like to have a bit more weight around the butt/ reel, I just personally find it more comfortable. When popping and throwing large stick baits, I again prefer a bit heavier rod butt and reel. I just feel more comfortable with it. Strangely enough, for lighter, bream, flathead, ECT, I prefer a very light rod and reel, and sometimes reach for a bait caster. Vanford- lovely reel, absolutely amazing, feels great but unfortunately id honestly prefer something a bit heavier. Don't get me wrong, absolutely wonderful reel to use, was actually looking to put one on my bream rod. As for the stradic 6000 it's only a few grams lighter than the Saragosa 6000. From my understanding the stradic is the lighter more refined Saragosa? Is that correct? Haha, very true, but any reel that can survive offshore kayak fishing will be fine on the beach. But that's exactly the reason Im going for a good sealed reel. My cleaning routine is: tighten the drag, put hose on mist and spray rods and reels. Undo the drag and spray with a reel spray (can't remember what it's called) then let them dry out. I definitely am getting 2 different rods. I'll be asking for advice about the second one later. Current thinking is the 10ft 8-15kg sandstorm or sensor surf, with the Saragosa 6000. From all the advice I've received, o believe that 10ft rod will give me the control and distance needed to throw lures, while having the strength to stop Jewfish. Still want to find a vertias though and give it a try. I definitely will be, plan to go up the coast to a few larger tackle shops to try out multiple rods. Thanks for the amazing offer, might need to take you up on that. Thanks for the great advice!

havent actually been able to find a veritas in person, but they look good and come in a great cast rating. are the utlegras good? i mainly use shiamno for light finese reels and rods and reserve penns for the heavy work. but im planning to use the saragosa for jigging of the kayak as well, so it will be used for multple things as im getting ready to retire some reels. haha, one night mate and i forgot to bring the rod holders, ended up holding tiagras for a few hours then gave up and went home beause our arms were way to tired.

Yeah that would be the ideal spot to put some gear. I need to get some gull wings at some point to make that space actually usable. I went out to a couple tackle shops today and tried multiple rods and reels. Firstly: Saragosa, 10,000 and 8000 were to big and heavy for what I want as I'm not looking to replace my live liners. The Saragosa 5000 on the was really nice. But ultimately settled on the 6000hg. Tried the Penn battles, but found that I was looking for a size between the 4000 and 5000 and they also aren't sealed. Then the slammer 4, they've really stepped it up a notch, the slammer 4 is definitely more refined than the 3 and was a tough contender against the Shimano. Ultimately, it came down to I wanted something between the 4500 and the 5500. So overall, I'm headed towards a Saragosa, which is great to have the reel out of the way. Now for the rods, I had a try of all the prevails. Found that they were all very sensitive. But I do agree, they seem great for sending big baits out. Definitely loaded up nicely and all round, I believe I have found a rod for sending out large baits. Now back to the lure fishing rod. The Penn prevails in the 9-10' range are a bit heavy on the cast weight department, as I want to be able to throw smaller metals for tailor. Around the 15g mark. But all round, solid contender. The Shimano aerowave, nope. Great bait rod, but I don't believe I need more of them. Sensor surf, love it, can see why you like it, but it's not for me. I just wouldn't get the use out of it. Thinking to try dawia again, so here's the ones I'm contemplating the most. The ones in really interested in is the sea bass 10'6" 8-15kg, 20-80g cast. And the 11' 7-15kg 20-60 cast. Any experience with them? Other one I'm looking at is the sandstorm, 10'6". Finally, the Penn prevail, 10' 8-15kg, 50-100 cast. Or the 9' 6-12kg 20-85 cast

What brand braid do you recommend? Been tossing up between 20 and 30lbs, but agreed, leaning towards 25lbs. Looking to try some different brands. Talking about being spoiled, a few weeks ago I was spoiled by a monster off Stockton on a tiagra 80.

Thanks guys, much appreciated advice. Now settled on getting 2 different rods. IAs for the lure setup 'm aiming for a 10 ft rod, looking at the Penn allegiance, veritas, and Shimano speed master. Other than the dawia, can you recommend any others? And what weight class should I be aiming for, as I want to cast lures for tailor, salmon, Jew, ECT, and matches the reels below. As for the reel, it's coming down to line capacity, I have been recommended to look at a 5500 slammer which has a line capacity of 380/30lbs. But I want to cut down a bit of the weight. So I'm looking at the Saragosas 6000hg but it only has a line capacity of 295/30lbs. Will that he enough for Jews? Any pointers with ideal line capacity would be much appreciated. As for the bait rod, I'll probably go a prevail 24-37kg or 15kg. I know the 37kg will be a broom stick but I prefer that when handling sharks.

That sounds promising, I'm definitely going to be adding a saragosa to the list to look at. Talking about breakages, I actually managed to strip the main gear of one reel and burn out the drag of a spinfisher 😂. I'm only interested in properly sealed reels, as I know the effects of sand and salt all to well. Is the sphroes a good option or would I be best to spend the extra for a saragosa as this will be used off a kayak as well.

That sounds promising, I'm definitely going to be adding a saragosa to the list to look at. Talking about breakages, I actually managed to strip the main gear of one reel and burn out the drag of a spinfisher 😂. I'm only interested in properly sealed reels, as I know the effects of sand and salt all to well. Is the sphroes a good option or would I be best to spend the extra for a saragosa as this will be used off a kayak as well

Sorry, how are you finding the Saragosas? Are they giving you maintenance trouble? I'm currently looking at the 6000hg as it's very similar weight to the slammer 4500 but has a bit more line capacity. I'm planning on going to a shop and actually having a play with both.

Thanks for the great answer, actually was perfect, because the beach I mainly fish is Stockton. I've been looking at the Penn allegiance as it has a medium-fast action and has a more suitable length for lures. What length would you use for lures on Stockton? I'm strongly considering the 9' allegiance but also open to other rods, I was also looking at the Shimano speed master. I did used to have a heavy surf setup, with a 37kg rod and a 10500 slammer, until the rod gave wave and snapped. That setup stopped everything 😂.

Other than the dawia sensor, can you please recommend any other brand or rod? I've had a couple of bad experiences with dawia and now don't buy from them anymore. Got 2 saltists, within 4 weeks, a few of the guide inserts fell out while just sitting on the shelf, called dawia and they said I can either send them back and wait 6 weeks for them to make up their mind wether it's a warranty or I can go fix it myself, (they wanted me to pay shipping both ways). Looking to get a heavier rod for baitfishing for Jews, something in the 15kg range. Do you ever target Jews on lure off the beach? What setup would you use?

Been meaning to ask, do you have a smaller tackle box that you pack for traveling? Or do you just take everything? Once I have the fridge, recovery gear, sleeping arrangements, spare parts, fuel, water, ECT, really not much spare left. Have you had any experience with a 3 piece rod? Are they any good?

Agree with the 2 setups, and I actually do have multiple beach rods. Just to elaborate my situation, I am getting into long distance touring so having multiple rods just doesn't fly, hence why I'm looking for a more multi purpose one. What influenced your decision to choose a 9' rod for spinning on the beach? I found with my 9' rod, I was struggling to get lures out any reasonable distance. How robust do you find the Stella? Often looked them, but then considered what my gear goes through. My rods get strapped to the front of the car and run up and down the beach. They also get dunked, dropped in sand, splashed on the kayak ECT, hence I transitioned over to Penn as the stradics were giving me trouble. As for the bait fishing, would you ever use your lure setup if say you could only bring one setup? The nice thing about the 4500 slammer is it has the line capacity and the drag to stop most things on the beach while being light enough to cast. As for the rod, what do you think of 8-12kg, would that be a reasonable compromise? Can still flick smaller lures for tailor, salmon, ECT and reasonable lures for jewfish. As for my dedicated jewfish bait setup, I already have a baitrunner and just need replace the rod as it fell out of the rod holder and was run over. But at the moment, have been using a 8-12kg heavy rod. Do plan to get a 15kg. Use to have a 24-37kg but that one was unfortunately snapped.

Good afternoon, after a 2 year break, i am returning to fishing. I am looking for some advice in regards to beach fishing combos. My intended use for this would be to cast lures for jewfish, tailor, salmon, ect, with a secondary use of soaking baits for jewfish, bream, flatties, salmon, ect. I am currently looking at a penn slammer iv 4500hs paired with a penn prevail. Firstly, I am wondering what weight class would suit my purpose the best. Secondly is there any other combos i should be looing at, thanks.

Lots of fatties, the bottom is quite muddy, so keep that in mind and it's quite shallow through there. Think of it like a big mud flat. Its starting to get a little bit to cold for whiting, but there may be some around. Main target would be fatties. Though there are bream in holding up in pockets