frangkie Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 (edited) I am interested to hear different anglers techniques for rigging swimming gar! There is so many different ways! i have had success with a couple of methods but i'm looking for a quick, foolproof gar rig that swims straight every time. any little shortcuts sound great to me. cheers Edited February 6, 2008 by frangkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewgaffer Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I'll start the ball rolling on trolling garfish. Cut off the speer to make the garfish an easier and hence a more inviting take. Cheers jewgaffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caranx Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 (edited) Single hooked rigged through the belly or band from the eyes to the hook(bridle). You can also get a plastic head that has small wings to keep them swimming upright. http://www.sportfishingmag.com/techniques/...yhoo-48705.html Edited February 6, 2008 by swordfisherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I am interested to hear different anglers techniques for rigging swimming gar! There is so many different ways! i have had success with a couple of methods but i'm looking for a quick, foolproof gar rig that swims straight every time. any little shortcuts sound great to me. cheers As you say many different ways... but basically to get it to swim and track straight as a rule this involves some sort of weight to get its head down and whether this is to be achieved via simply chin rigging with a sinker for example or via the many other commercial methods sold on the market........also the breaking of its backbone will get the gar to do that enticing swimming action that is so highly sort after.... Cheers Warnie...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr magoo Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I am interested to hear different anglers techniques for rigging swimming gar! There is so many different ways! i have had success with a couple of methods but i'm looking for a quick, foolproof gar rig that swims straight every time. any little shortcuts sound great to me. cheers this is how i do it ,imake up a rig that looks like this cut beak off ,flex bait to loosen up backbone ,slide hook down through the gill as far as you can and come out in the centre line of the fish,then push the pin up through the centre of the head or the beak section ,very important to be in the centre line ,using a size 12 rubber band secure the head/beak to the pin,troll like that to make it skip or add a sinker and skirt for a bit off dazzle and to make it swim once you get the hang off it only takes a few seconds but the gars have to be good quality cheers arman woops sorry about that last pic arman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewgaffer Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) to get it to swim and track straight ..... involves some sort of weight to get its head down...... simply chin rigging with a sinker ..... also the breaking of its backbone will get the gar to do that enticing swimming action that is so highly sort after.... Cheers Warnie...... That information absolutely nails it for Frangkie, Warnie ! And breaking a garfish's backbone! What about that one! What a top way to jig up a jew too ay !! Mr Magoo and Warnie your input into Alex's question on better ways to present garfish is as good as it gets !! Cheers jewgaffer Edited February 7, 2008 by jewgaffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangkie Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) cheers mcgoo, looks good, that is wire crimped on the hook is it, how thick is it. Great photos! can you put a stinger trailing off the first hookor does it compromise the swimming action of thr bait? thanks to all who gave input to this topic! cheers alex. Edited February 7, 2008 by frangkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmac Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) The Pin Rig that magoo has shown works well. you can use a paper clip as the pin but what he has shown is the skipping gar pin rig. like warnie has said you need to get it weighted at the head for it to be a swim gar. what you can do on a pin rig is when you are feeding your tag end back through the crimp you can give it a bit of tail thread a ball sinker onto the tag end then another crimp to lock it in place. good hooks to use are the SL12s or Owner Long shanks for these rigs. dont use a stinger hook as it will make the bait spin out of control. makes a big difference in swimming them to break the backbone and give them a little squeeze so some of the flesh comes away from the bones too. Col Edited February 7, 2008 by djmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangkie Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 The Pin Rig that magoo has shown works well. you can use a paper clip as the pin but what he has shown is the skipping gar pin rig. like warnie has said you need to get it weighted at the head for it to be a swim gar. what you can do on a pin rig is when you are feeding your tag end back through the crimp you can give it a bit of tail thread a ball sinker onto the tag end then another crimp to lock it in place. good hooks to use are the SL12s or Owner Long shanks for these rigs. dont use a stinger hook as it will make the bait spin out of control. makes a big difference in swimming them to break the backbone and give them a little squeeze so some of the flesh comes away from the bones too. Col cheers mate. if targeting kingfish: in regards to the stinger i mentioned earlier, would the bait spin even if the stinger was a small but strong treble that was simply tied to the gape of the first hook on about 5" of trace and free hanging. what i mean by that is the treble is not pinned in the fish. if this worked, it would hook up a lot more kings. I noticed with the one hook rig a few baits got hit behind the hook resulting in a hit but no hook up. This also happened to me up north qld with macs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caranx Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 The bad thing about stingers is that if you have a lot of rats around you pick a lot of them up and you spend a bit of time trying to de hook them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr magoo Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 (edited) cheers mcgoo, looks good, that is wire crimped on the hook is it, how thick is it. Great photos! can you put a stinger trailing off the first hookor does it compromise the swimming action of thr bait? thanks to all who gave input to this topic! cheers alex. there is a sinker in the skirt in the image i find that it is enough to keep it swiming that wire is about 80pound single strand dont think it matters ,use what you have and you can use a stinger hook ,it does compromise the action but still works good if chasin kings i use the stinger hook just loop it over the front hook making sure the hook is centred and a light gauge hook (not to heavy,will deaden action a treble will probably work although i havent tried it)take note of the angle of the loop that ataches to the front hook Edited February 8, 2008 by mr magoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangkie Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 top stuff magoo!!, will be trying this rig. It looks the goods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Russian Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 We use a two hook rig due to a lot of missed hits just behind the hook on a single rig. First hook is inserted through the gill as previously stated but the second hook is secured to the side of the gar with a small rubber band. The wire pin is pushed up through the head and a wire spiral nose cone is screwed down the wire pin. Then a rubber skirt is slid down over the nose cone. This all holds the gar together really well and can swim for hours nice and straight. You can buy all of these parts separate or as a pre-rigged unit. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefish Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 try this pop the eyes out, jam a bean sinker in the gill/eye cavity, place a length of dental floss through the eyes wrap it across over the head and down through/behind the gills then up and forwards across the head so there is an X of thread on its forehead, then crossover under the chin and tie on top of the mouth. put your hook through the x and bobs your uncle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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