rob roy Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hi, I have just noticed a sticker on my boat put there by the people who did my 20 hour service, it says next service due at 50 hours, i have checked my service book and there is no mention of a 50 hour service, firstly is this going to affect my warranty if i don't get it done, and is it important to have this done considering i'l be having my annual/100hour service done in March next year, or is this just a way of getting more money out of me by this particular dealer. Regards Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh88 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hi, I have just noticed a sticker on my boat put there by the people who did my 20 hour service, it says next service due at 50 hours, i have checked my service book and there is no mention of a 50 hour service, firstly is this going to affect my warranty if i don't get it done, and is it important to have this done considering i'l be having my annual/100hour service done in March next year, or is this just a way of getting more money out of me by this particular dealer. Regards Roy We have an optimax to and similarly has just had its 20hr service, not really sure when next one is due, i wouldn't of thought until 100hrs, not sure if you'll be able to get a truthful answer out of your dealer like you said. Huey might know the answer? Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailfish-syd Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 We have an optimax to and similarly has just had its 20hr service, not really sure when next one is due, i wouldn't of thought until 100hrs, not sure if you'll be able to get a truthful answer out of your dealer like you said. Huey might know the answer? Josh Hi Roy Boy, i have twin 90 Optimax motors and have just looked at my servicing history. I have completed a 20 hour and a 100 hour service and does not have any 50 hour service in the warranty book. As long as you follow the servicing schedule in your maintenance log book, im sure you will be right. Cheers Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr magoo Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 mate ,dont stress about this as i had the same issue with a sticker placed on my boat saying next service due at 50hours,and after going through the log book and contacting the dealership who then went through to mercury to confirm that its 20 and then 100 hours as i didnt want to loose the 3+2 yr warrenty i didnt want to fork out the dollars as it took me 4 weeks to go from 20 to 50 hours apparently they used to have a 50hour service in there scedule and this is were the confusion is created cheers arman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) Hi Roy, the service intervals on all Mercs are 3mths/20 hours and then every 12mths or 100 hours which ever comes first. You are probably right and it is a way the dealer can try and make more money out of a customer and would unless you checked. Get it serviced yearly of ever 100 hours and your warranty will be fine. Cheers, Huey. Edited November 9, 2008 by Huey @ Huett Marine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob roy Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Thanks Guys, will wait till March for its next service, really couldn't afford another $650 at the present time. Regards Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennmreid Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 just cant trust some dealers. will do anything to make a quick buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnv Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) g-day Roy buddy when i bought my new boat with a 150 hp johnson they told me it needed a 20hr & then 100hr as per the warranty book. Then had the 20hr done they also put a sticker for a 50hr service,when i checked up on it they said it was a mistake after i told them what the book said & i told them what johnson told me ,then they told they where sorry for the mistake of there apprentice mechanic had made. by the way i never went back there again & now is no longer in the businness cheers john Edited November 10, 2008 by johnv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoges1974 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Thanks Guys, will wait till March for its next service, really couldn't afford another $650 at the present time. Regards Roy what size motor you got sounds very expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob roy Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hi, its a 135 hp optimax, the dealer i bought it off charges $500 plus parts for a service, and the total cost after my 20 hour service was $650, i had a few minor issues with the smartcraft set up and the trailer that i wanted them to sort out under warranty so that's why i took it to them, i'm going to shop around for my next service. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightmanager Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Roy , I know its a bit of a hlike , but I would look no further than Huetts Marine at Cowan. Sometimes , to get the best , you have to travel and spend a bit of money. Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennmreid Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Roy , I know its a bit of a hlike , but I would look no further than Huetts Marine at Cowan. Sometimes , to get the best , you have to travel and spend a bit of money. Ross I with Ross on this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoges1974 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) Hi, its a 135 hp optimax, the dealer i bought it off charges $500 plus parts for a service, and the total cost after my 20 hour service was $650, i had a few minor issues with the smartcraft set up and the trailer that i wanted them to sort out under warranty so that's why i took it to them, i'm going to shop around for my next service. Roy Just make sure an authorised Merc dealer does the servicing to keep your 3 + 2 warranty The reason i asked is my first service on my 90 Optimax was under $250 including parts. I can't see why a 135 would be so much more expensive. Your is a 4cyl ???? may be they are alot more work. Also remember any Merc dealer will do the warranty. I purchased my boat from a dealer in Newcastle and i get all my work done in Sydney and they have done warranty work no worries. They just claim parts time ect through Merc. Edited November 12, 2008 by hoges1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelican Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) Hi, its a 135 hp optimax, the dealer i bought it off charges $500 plus parts for a service, and the total cost after my 20 hour service was $650, i had a few minor issues with the smartcraft set up and the trailer that i wanted them to sort out under warranty so that's why i took it to them, i'm going to shop around for my next service. Roy Don't know what the book hours are for that service but maybe they think they are worth $250 an hour???? Hope you got a cup of coffee and a biscuit. God knows what parts add up to $150. Can't possibly be plugs at only 20 hours?? Shame the manufacturers don't cut out some of this crap as it give a bad taste in the mouth of the consumer. I think when we all buy motors we should ask for a copy of the scheduled hours for services so we know as in the magazine comparisons they quote ongoing costs but it seems some dealers charge significantly over. Perhaps on the purchase we should negotiate the first services as pert of the package price so and hope the dealer is still in business when they become due? Edited November 12, 2008 by pelican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob roy Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hi Guys, apologies all round, just checked my receipt, my dealer charged $400 plus parts for the 20 hour service, and the parts came to $170, fuel filter and filter kit was $72, , oil and grease $38 environmental levy $25 and impeller $35, [ had an issue of engine overheat warning horn coming on ] was told the impeller wasn't worn enough to send back under warranty, but since changing the engine has been running nice and cool, still thought i shouldn't have had to pay for it though. Regards Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lighthouse2k Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 If the part isn't worn enough thats the more reason it should be going back for warranty. Warranty does not generally cover fair wear and tear. If its not worn and its not working you would think that would be a warranty problem? Interesting to know what the hour service schedule is for the 20hr service and how much they are charging you an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoges1974 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Mate i would deff be changing dealers. Asked the guy i use what it would be he said $225 + parts all up around $285 Called another dealer just to ask he told me $300 all up inc parts Pm me who it was so i never go there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnv Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 wow talking about being ripped of let all of us know who it is so we dont go there to get ripped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh88 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I hope i'm not getting ripped off. We have an Optimax 75 and its just been in for its 20hr. All up it cost just over $600, this was made up of : anti-corrosion treatment=$3 Materials=$15 Grease/gear box oils=$40 3 bottles of DFI oil (4L bottles) = $48 each= $144 20hr service labour: price=$90, quantity=4?? total=$360 new anchor=$45 All up=$607, disregard anchor and oil i guess so brings it down to $417-is that about right or a bit steep?? Cheers Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoges1974 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) I hope i'm not getting ripped off. We have an Optimax 75 and its just been in for its 20hr. All up it cost just over $600, this was made up of : anti-corrosion treatment=$3 Materials=$15 Grease/gear box oils=$40 3 bottles of DFI oil (4L bottles) = $48 each= $144 20hr service labour: price=$90, quantity=4?? total=$360 new anchor=$45 All up=$607, disregard anchor and oil i guess so brings it down to $417-is that about right or a bit steep?? Cheers Josh 20 hour service on 90 Optimax This is how my reciept for my first service read Carried out first service Compression test;ok Ignition check;ok Drained and refilled gearbox oil Removed prop. checked for fishing line and greased shaft removed and inspected spark plugs all ok Greased all grease points removed and replaced fuel filter Inspected fuel system Retorqued cylinder head and side plates Ran on flusher. checked operations and cooling system Labour total $159.09 Parts 1 x fuel filter $23.18 2 x gear plug washers $2.73 1 x gearbox oil and grease $16.36 1 x workshop supplies $12.27 Extras Inspected trailer and made adjustments Remove engine from boat and lowered to bottom hole $85.00 Total $301.36 gst $30.14 total $331.50 Minus the $85 to do motor and trailer close enough to $250 Its a pitty the site sponsor isn't a merc dealer. Edited November 13, 2008 by hoges1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightmanager Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Actually he is . Without this denegrating into an ETEC vs MERCURY rant, I purchased a 75HP ETEC 18 months ago. Motor has approximately 140 hrs. Huetts Marine changed the fuel filter @ 30 hrs ( updated filter , no charge ). Last week , I greased the prop spline , and 3 grease nipples . ( Say $3.00 for grease). Thats it. Marine Mechanics charge for their time. Some make a meal of it , (the bad guys ) , others charge what it is worth. I think , ( and I am sure those in the trade would agree) that $600 for a first service is a little on the steep side! I would suggest that you have a chat with Craig from Huetts Marine , who will give you a genuine quote as to what a 20 hour service would cost. Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoges1974 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) Actually he is . Without this denegrating into an ETEC vs MERCURY rant, I purchased a 75HP ETEC 18 months ago. Motor has approximately 140 hrs. Huetts Marine changed the fuel filter @ 30 hrs ( updated filter , no charge ). Last week , I greased the prop spline , and 3 grease nipples . ( Say $3.00 for grease). Thats it. Marine Mechanics charge for their time. Some make a meal of it , (the bad guys ) , others charge what it is worth. I think , ( and I am sure those in the trade would agree) that $600 for a first service is a little on the steep side! I would suggest that you have a chat with Craig from Huetts Marine , who will give you a genuine quote as to what a 20 hour service would cost. Ross Correct me AGAIN if i am wrong but i asked Huetts and they told me they are not AN APPROVED Mercury dealer so they can't service the motor if you want to keep the Warranty. Merc state to keep the 3+ 2 you must use a Merc dealer Craig ??????????? If i owned an Etec i would still service it at 100 hours just the way i like to do things. 3 years with no servicing scared me when i was looking at boats Edited November 13, 2008 by hoges1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightmanager Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 My apologies Hoges , they no longer sell Mercury outboards. Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hi Guys, we are still Mercury agents and no problem about Mercury warranty requirements. In fact I would be guessing, but I would think we are Sydneys oldest Merc dealer-we have been Merc dealers since 1984 and meet all the requirements for service work on Merc. Hoges, sorry mate but must have had cross wires or something and Ross yes we are still Merc dealers thru the tie-in with Telwater. These figures are way over the top. A first 20 service on a V6 OPTI shoudl not cost more than about $250. All that is done is really change the gearoil, grease, check computor for codes and a few other minor things. On a 3 cylinder OPTI that first service should not be more than about $200. These types of figures are what I would expect on a yearly service where you replace the impeller and even replacing the $40 each plugs does not make it these types of figures. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoges1974 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Hi Guys, we are still Mercury agents and no problem about Mercury warranty requirements. In fact I would be guessing, but I would think we are Sydneys oldest Merc dealer-we have been Merc dealers since 1984 and meet all the requirements for service work on Merc. Hoges, sorry mate but must have had cross wires or something and Ross yes we are still Merc dealers thru the tie-in with Telwater. These figures are way over the top. A first 20 service on a V6 OPTI shoudl not cost more than about $250. All that is done is really change the gearoil, grease, check computor for codes and a few other minor things. On a 3 cylinder OPTI that first service should not be more than about $200. These types of figures are what I would expect on a yearly service where you replace the impeller and even replacing the $40 each plugs does not make it these types of figures. Cheers, Huey. Well there you go we should all take our OPtis to Huey and everyone will be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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