Urgent - Critical To Vote No Over Weekend

[Dan1977]

Just put my NO vote in. I reckon the sooner THAT party is banned from politics the better we'll all be. They are nothing more than extremists - remember this was the party that wanted to legalise ecstatsy and other outrageous policies. If they ran this country we'd all be living in caves....

TG

[adzzy]

done

[BIGFISH]

The Manly Daily is conducting their daily poll in today's edition.

The question posed is "Should fishing be banned at Long Reef to protect grey nurse sharks?"

Vote at: http://www.manlydaily.com.au/

Thank you for taking the time.

This is important and you can bet the Greenies are mustering even more support to vote Yes in this straw poll.

Please pass this along to anyone you think may be appropriate

Vote now!!!!!, its on the top of the page in small text under the "poll" heading.

We have been going great guns, thank you to all the raiders but we have to keep voting till monday very very important

Keep going, don't lose momentum now

See NPA release to all there constituents

Help Provide The World's Best Protection for NSW!

(Actions are at the end of this email!)

The biggest NSW marine sanctuary plan ever was launched on 4th December 2008 by NPA. If implemented this will help gain the world's best protection for NSW oceans.

More marine protection

The aim of this campaign is to gain marine sanctuary status for 20% of NSW oceans reaching from Tweed Heads in the north to Cape Howe in the south.

These sanctuaries will give our NSW oceans protection for the future. These fully protected areas will help to boost the numbers, size and productivity of our fish, help protect our critically endangered species and provide valuable tourism and economic benefits.

If implemented they will help ensure we can all continue to enjoy our oceans for generations to come.

Successes to date!

In the last week NPA has received extensive TV, radio, print and online media. We have had a number of MPs, groups and supporters show their support. Our first council came on board on Monday and we’ll be working hard in the coming weeks to ensure we continue to work towards a commitment from the NSW Government to building the proposed network of protection for our oceans.

You can help provide sanctuary to our marine life - Blue is the New Green!

You can help support this landmark campaign by:

- Making a donation on our website or by calling (02) 9299 0000.

- Alternatively visit our campaigns page for other ideas of how you can help

An easy way you can take action right now!

Today, Sydney’s Manly Daily paper is conducting an online poll to determine support for the protection of one of the remaining key sites where our critically endangered grey nurse sharks live. NPA is proposing sanctuary protection for Long Reef on Sydney’s northern beaches as part of a large multiple use Sydney Marine Park.

The result of this poll will influence the decisions of government officials – we need your vote!

Step 1: Please take two seconds to vote 'Yes' saying we should protect Long Reef’s grey nurse sharks. Simply click on the link at http://manly-daily.whereilive.com.au/

Step 2: Pass this onto your contacts asking them to put in their vote online to support the future of our marine life.

Step 3: Visit our campaigns page for other ideas of how you can help protect our oceans

We look forward to keeping you up to date with this campaign as it develops

By working together we can make BLUE THE NEW GREEN

Kind regards, Nicky

Nicky Hammond

Marine Program Manager

National Parks Association of NSW

PO Box 337, Newtown NSW 2042

Tel: 02 9299 0000; Fax: 02 9290 2525

Email: marine@marine.org.au

Website: www.marine.org.au

Join NPA~Marine today www.marine.org.au/supportmember.htm

Call 02 9299 0000 to make a donation today

Winners:

Sydney Harbour Week Award for the Environment 2007

Prime Minister's Award for Excellence in Community Business Partnerships - National 2007

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NPA: 50 years protecting nature

[cflife]

Done

[Jiggy]

Done, voted no, but I have a feeling that it's not going to make a difference. The NPA has probably all ready stitched up the deal with the state governement for the creation of the marine park AND the exclusion zones.

The state goverment will be gambling that come next election the votes that they lose won't go to the Libs but to the greens and other independants; green preferences may well see them retain government.

This is what happened at the last lot of council elections; Labour got slammed but most of the votes they lost didn't go to the Libs. So the ongoing trainwreck that is the NSW government may continue past 2011.

The implementation process will probably follow the process they have used in all the other marine parks; feedback from stakes holders and the affected communities ignored unless they support the proposition.

That said by no means should we lay down and take it. Write to your local member, the premier, the primary industries and environment ministers. Write to the opposition and get their stand on marine parks and exclusion zones. Write to the shooting party members and get them on side. It would also help to get one of the major daily papers onside. Whatever we do it's important that we act and act together, something that we fisherman are too often failing to do.

If at the end of the day the exclusion zones are implemented then it's time for different tactics. Losing a battles doesn't mean that you've lost the war.

Cheers

Jiggy

[BIGFISH]

Done, voted no, but I have a feeling that it's not going to make a difference. The NPA has probably all ready stitched up the deal with the state governement for the creation of the marine park AND the exclusion zones.

The state goverment will be gambling that come next election the votes that they lose won't go to the Libs but to the greens and other independants; green preferences may well see them retain government.

This is what happened at the last lot of council elections; Labour got slammed but most of the votes they lost didn't go to the Libs. So the ongoing trainwreck that is the NSW government may continue past 2011.

The implementation process will probably follow the process they have used in all the other marine parks; feedback from stakes holders and the affected communities ignored unless they support the proposition.

That said by no means should we lay down and take it. Write to your local member, the premier, the primary industries and environment ministers. Write to the opposition and get their stand on marine parks and exclusion zones. Write to the shooting party members and get them on side. It would also help to get one of the major daily papers onside. Whatever we do it's important that we act and act together, something that we fisherman are too often failing to do.

If at the end of the day the exclusion zones are implemented then it's time for different tactics. Losing a battles doesn't mean that you've lost the war.

Cheers

Jiggy

WELL SAID JIGGY - Nothing is ever lost if we don't want it to, 450,000 fishing licences in NSW alone united would be invincible. We still have a few tricks up our sleeve.

[onyourway]

DONE!

[Tackle Junkie]

Done !!!!!

[cupster]

From the Daily Telegraph, 05/12/08

"NSW Fishing Clubs Association president Robert Smith said a Federal Government risk assessment has found recreational fishing had negligible impact.

I think the poll question is a loaded and misleading one..."should fishing be banned at long reef to protect the grey nurse shark" to me it implies that rec.fishing is the cause of the problem.

This poll favours the YES vote.

We all want to save a species so what uninformed person wouldn't vote yes?

Greenies are a political,propaganda machine who rely on peoples ignorance and "feel good whims" and give no quarter to people with interests that conflict with theirs, they know how important these types of polls are so once they see that there vote is in the minority they'll do what they can to boost their vote.

"BLUE IS THE NEW GREEN" they say...an ominous slogan for anyone who enjoys fishing.Does anyone really think they'll stop if/when these sanctuaries are established?..Of course not! they'll be encouraged by their success and will want to push it further...next thing will be a ban on livebaiting,lets face it..there are many in the green movement who'll like to see rec fishing banned altogether.

As already said by others, it'll be hard to win this one if they start to rally but even if we don't win the %, a large "NO" vote won't go unnoticed!!

A smart pollie [?] would know that a large percent of the people who voted NO are hard working,tax paying fishos who voted with a passion and if we ever get anywhere near as organised as the greenies we will be a voice that can't be ignored.

Wouldn't hurt to slap the ol' "I FISH AND I VOTE" sticker on the car/boat raiders!!

Edited December 12, 2008 by hooked4life

[whi7eindustries]

WELL SAID JIGGY - Nothing is ever lost if we don't want it to, 450,000 fishing licences in NSW alone united would be invincible. We still have a few tricks up our sleeve.

If it does come to a losing vote, I reckon we should get all those fishermen, on foot and in boats to go down to Long Reef to protest, it would make a landmark spectacle and bring to light just how many people are really involved in this proposturous idea.

[BIGFISH]

The Manly Daily is conducting their daily poll in today's edition.

The question posed is "Should fishing be banned at Long Reef to protect grey nurse sharks?"

Vote at: http://www.manlydaily.com.au/

Thank you for taking the time.

This is important and you can bet the Greenies are mustering even more support to vote Yes in this straw poll.

Please pass this along to anyone you think may be appropriate

Vote now!!!!!, its on the top of the page in small text under the "poll" heading.

We have been going great guns, thank you to all the raiders but we have to keep voting till monday very very important

Help Provide The World's Best Protection for NSW!

(Actions are at the end of this email!)

The biggest NSW marine sanctuary plan ever was launched on 4th December 2008 by NPA. If implemented this will help gain the world's best protection for NSW oceans.

More marine protection

The aim of this campaign is to gain marine sanctuary status for 20% of NSW oceans reaching from Tweed Heads in the north to Cape Howe in the south.

These sanctuaries will give our NSW oceans protection for the future. These fully protected areas will help to boost the numbers, size and productivity of our fish, help protect our critically endangered species and provide valuable tourism and economic benefits.

If implemented they will help ensure we can all continue to enjoy our oceans for generations to come.

Successes to date!

In the last week NPA has received extensive TV, radio, print and online media. We have had a number of MPs, groups and supporters show their support. Our first council came on board on Monday and we’ll be working hard in the coming weeks to ensure we continue to work towards a commitment from the NSW Government to building the proposed network of protection for our oceans.

You can help provide sanctuary to our marine life - Blue is the New Green!

You can help support this landmark campaign by:

- Making a donation on our website or by calling (02) 9299 0000.

- Alternatively visit our campaigns page for other ideas of how you can help

An easy way you can take action right now!

Today, Sydney’s Manly Daily paper is conducting an online poll to determine support for the protection of one of the remaining key sites where our critically endangered grey nurse sharks live. NPA is proposing sanctuary protection for Long Reef on Sydney’s northern beaches as part of a large multiple use Sydney Marine Park.

The result of this poll will influence the decisions of government officials – we need your vote!

Step 1: Please take two seconds to vote 'Yes' saying we should protect Long Reef’s grey nurse sharks. Simply click on the link at http://manly-daily.whereilive.com.au/

Step 2: Pass this onto your contacts asking them to put in their vote online to support the future of our marine life.

Step 3: Visit our campaigns page for other ideas of how you can help protect our oceans

We look forward to keeping you up to date with this campaign as it develops

By working together we can make BLUE THE NEW GREEN

Kind regards, Nicky

Nicky Hammond

Marine Program Manager

National Parks Association of NSW

PO Box 337, Newtown NSW 2042

Tel: 02 9299 0000; Fax: 02 9290 2525

Email: marine@marine.org.au

Website: www.marine.org.au

Join NPA~Marine today www.marine.org.au/supportmember.htm

Call 02 9299 0000 to make a donation today

Winners:

Sydney Harbour Week Award for the Environment 2007

Prime Minister's Award for Excellence in Community Business Partnerships - National 2007

If you would like to unsubscribe from this email list please email marine@marine.org.au with ‘unsubscribe’ in the subject line.

NPA: 50 years protecting nature

System has gone down following a surge in our vote ? ??????

System has gone down following a surge in our vote ? ??????

[Hodgey]

Back up to 79% ...

[BIGFISH]

As a group we have not gelled well in a political sense. 450,000 fishing licenses in NSW and yet groups like NPA divide and conquer us because we let them. There is a real sense of unity in NSW among the fishos and this needs to translate into organisation. Image what a national powerful lobby group we would be united with one voice.

The marine parks that started in QLD and moved into northern NSW is definitely on the march south. We need to take a stand.

I am not against marine parks per say but I am against being branded an environmental vandel because my family and I fish. The only memories I have of my late father where the times I fished with him as a kid.

The answer to preserving the environmet is quota restriction, catch and release, artificial baits and tournaments that do not kill fish to match angling skills and all this has more or less come. The next step is to self police and dob in those that do the wrong thing that way the government, marine parks and the fisho are working for a common goal.

Threatening to take out Sydney's premier and really only major reef is antagonistic and has created this seige mentality. This vote is far more about a referendum on our rights than whether or not an area can be fished.

We thank all the raiders who are supporting the cause because I firmly believe you are supporting your and all australian rights.

KEEP THOSE VOTES COMING IN OVER THE WEEKEND CRITICAL

Cheers

BIG

KEEP VOTING OVER THE WEEKED - TELL EVERYONE TO VOTE

[Steve07]

My vote of NO just in,keep it going guy's cause we need lots more.We all as fisho's or anyone who loves fishing must fight for this,cause if we keep losing our valuable area's we might as well stop buying tackle

& give up this wonderful sport,which is by the way one of the world's biggest participating sport's.

cheers

Steve

[witchcraft]

My vote of NO just in,keep it going guy's cause we need lots more.We all as fisho's or anyone who loves fishing must fight for this,cause if we keep losing our valuable area's we might as well stop buying tackle

& give up this wonderful sport,which is by the way one of the world's biggest participating sport's.

cheers

Steve

done

cheers steve

[stan]

Done,

Ridicoulous reason to ban fishing at Long Reef!

I am absolutely sick of greenies throwing their two bob's worth whenever an opportunity strikes.

Leave the average joe fisherman alone and go hug a tree.

Ian.

[nosliw]

Back up to 79%!!!

Let's bring this home.

[mark84]

still 79

[CR@ZY OS@M@]

just voted

[cflife]

The Manly Daily is conducting their daily poll in today's edition.

The question posed is "Should fishing be banned at Long Reef to protect grey nurse sharks?"

Vote at: http://www.manlydaily.com.au/

Thank you for taking the time.

This is important and you can bet the Greenies are mustering even more support to vote Yes in this straw poll.

Please pass this along to anyone you think may be appropriate

Vote now!!!!!, its on the top of the page in small text under the "poll" heading.

We have been going great guns, thank you to all the raiders but we have to keep voting till monday very very important

Help Provide The World's Best Protection for NSW!

(Actions are at the end of this email!)

The biggest NSW marine sanctuary plan ever was launched on 4th December 2008 by NPA. If implemented this will help gain the world's best protection for NSW oceans.

More marine protection

The aim of this campaign is to gain marine sanctuary status for 20% of NSW oceans reaching from Tweed Heads in the north to Cape Howe in the south.

These sanctuaries will give our NSW oceans protection for the future. These fully protected areas will help to boost the numbers, size and productivity of our fish, help protect our critically endangered species and provide valuable tourism and economic benefits.

If implemented they will help ensure we can all continue to enjoy our oceans for generations to come.

Successes to date!

In the last week NPA has received extensive TV, radio, print and online media. We have had a number of MPs, groups and supporters show their support. Our first council came on board on Monday and we’ll be working hard in the coming weeks to ensure we continue to work towards a commitment from the NSW Government to building the proposed network of protection for our oceans.

You can help provide sanctuary to our marine life - Blue is the New Green!

You can help support this landmark campaign by:

- Making a donation on our website or by calling (02) 9299 0000.

- Alternatively visit our campaigns page for other ideas of how you can help

An easy way you can take action right now!

Today, Sydney’s Manly Daily paper is conducting an online poll to determine support for the protection of one of the remaining key sites where our critically endangered grey nurse sharks live. NPA is proposing sanctuary protection for Long Reef on Sydney’s northern beaches as part of a large multiple use Sydney Marine Park.

The result of this poll will influence the decisions of government officials – we need your vote!

Step 1: Please take two seconds to vote 'Yes' saying we should protect Long Reef’s grey nurse sharks. Simply click on the link at http://manly-daily.whereilive.com.au/

Step 2: Pass this onto your contacts asking them to put in their vote online to support the future of our marine life.

Step 3: Visit our campaigns page for other ideas of how you can help protect our oceans

We look forward to keeping you up to date with this campaign as it develops

By working together we can make BLUE THE NEW GREEN

Kind regards, Nicky

Nicky Hammond

Marine Program Manager

National Parks Association of NSW

PO Box 337, Newtown NSW 2042

Tel: 02 9299 0000; Fax: 02 9290 2525

Email: marine@marine.org.au

Website: www.marine.org.au

Join NPA~Marine today www.marine.org.au/supportmember.htm

Call 02 9299 0000 to make a donation today

Winners:

Sydney Harbour Week Award for the Environment 2007

Prime Minister's Award for Excellence in Community Business Partnerships - National 2007

If you would like to unsubscribe from this email list please email marine@marine.org.au with ‘unsubscribe’ in the subject line.

NPA: 50 years protecting nature

YOU CAN VOTE MORE THAN ONCE

[glennmreid]

keep those votes coming in.

[jewgaffer]

The monkey trick with this one is that ordinary fair minded people in the street would not associate recreational fishermen with reducing the numbers of Grey Nurse sharks at Longreef or catching them anywhere else for that matter and rightly so, Grey Nurse sharks being a protected species, must be rare and of not much use to a recreational fisherman anyway.

As a consequence these voters would more than likely vote yes, thinking saving Grey Nurse Sharks wouldn't do much harm to anyone and having a sanctuary at Longreef would only prevent commercial fishing boats from operating there.

Cheers

jewgaffer

[jahajo]

just put my vote in

[arkedup]

my vote is in

Yes 21% 917 votes

No 79% 3474 votes

[Mik]

Done, voted no, but I have a feeling that it's not going to make a difference. The NPA has probably all ready stitched up the deal with the state governement for the creation of the marine park AND the exclusion zones.

..........

Cheers

Jiggy

If it does come to a losing vote, I reckon we should get all those fishermen, on foot and in boats to go down to Long Reef to protest, it would make a landmark spectacle and bring to light just how many people are really involved in this proposturous idea.

How much influence does this poll have. I've voted & obviously to do nothing on any poll that affects you is silly but really, if the vote was 99.5% NO who would really listen? Does the Manly Daily hold that much sway?

Are there other avenues to express your opinion where they may get a better chance of being taken seriously to the people who make the decisions? If there is then not only should we vote on the Manly Daily poll but also get our opinions heard where it matters.

Protesting & letters to pollies seems to be a more direct & targeted way to get your point across. Just a thought people, if anyone out there knows where or how to communicate our opinions then perhaps there are better ways than a newspaper poll.

Edited December 13, 2008 by Boofhead