slinkymalinky Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I found this YouTube link... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YLuZZsVut0 I have absolutely no idea what this guy is saying but I guess he's trying to show how a great reel (Shimano Stella) can still perform after a dunking. He may not have noticed but I did... bubbles coming out means water going in! A little bit of time and he's going to be sending that reel back to Shimano and trying to explain how it got crud and water inside it. It doesn't matter how good your reel is or how much its advertising says it's waterproof. If you dunk your reel ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have it completely stripped, cleaned and serviced IMMEDIATELY (don't even keep using it for the rest of the fishing session). Cheers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRITZABU Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 slinkymalinky this so very true in most cases ! Wish all anglers could read this !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 G'day Fritz To be honest, when I saw this I couldn't stop laughing. What sort of wombat buys a $1000 reel and drops it in a bucket of muddy water... even to try to make some sort of point on YouTube???? But yeah... I wish more people would read it too... it would save a lot of people a lot of money rebuilding reels that have been all but destroyed. Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulch Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 righto raiders - yesterday was a close call - and may need to take action Was fishing the harbour rocks yesterday, had my rod n reel in a rock made rod hole - sitting nicely - Penn Spinfisher 850SS As i was re-rigging, i had my rod n reel lying down on the rocks......then a rogue wave came up the rocks, and swept thru - covered the bottom half of the reel, before my reflexes hoisted it up into the air it wasnt a massive body of water, but it wasnt a slight splash either - its technically not a dunk, but one could argue, the same damage can be forthcoming is this a dunk - does this require emergancy action immediately i sacrificed my water supply, and covered it in fresh water squirting my drink bottle all over it I know these Penns are built to withstand tough conditions - but where do you draw a line in the sand? Right now it feels no different - i;ve only used it 4 times, purchased in april this year I've also heard they are easy to clean etc - where do i look for evidence of such an attack from the posiedon and his aqua demons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfisherman Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Unless you get yourself an Alvey... I do think iv fallen love with Alveys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 G'day Kulch. Short answer is yes... it counts as a dunk. If there is any chance at all that water might have entered the reel, spool, any of the bearings or line roller area then treat it as a dunked reel. Corrosion doesn't happen immediately but it does happen quickly so just because you can't feel any effects right now doesn't mean that your reel isn't being damaged. If any sand, silt or crud entered with any water, it will already be slowly wearing away at the gears in your reel every time you turn the handle... so I'd suggest you stop. Penn Spinfishers are simple and tough but still vulnerable. The best thing to do is to strip and service the reel ASAP. If no water got in then the worst that you'll do is service your reel. If any did get in, then you could potentially save a disaster. The bearings and gears are the most vulnerable parts and need to be most carefully checked but be thorough. Here's a link to the 6500SS tutorial that might help... http://www.fishraider.com.au/Invision/index.php?showtopic=46299 Cheers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulch Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 thx alot slinky i'm getting a small scewdriver set on the way home!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulch Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 hi slinky do i just use a warmy soapy solution with a toothbrush, then regrease? will any old grease work? or is there specific fishing grease? sorry for the questions, its just i cant get to a tackle store today, so hoping the hardware store can supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Questions is what we're here for, Kulch. To clean all the old lubricant out of a reel you'll need a solvent... soapy water won't do it. I use White Spirit (available in the hardware store in the same place as Metho and Turps). White spirit will dissolve the old lubricants and you can give parts a brush in the spirit with an old toothbrush. To clean bearings using white spirit, ideally you should remove the bearing shields (follow the link for info on how to do it). You don't have to remove them though if you don't want to but you'll need to give them a good soak for at least 5-10 minutes either way in clean white spirit, then give them a spin repeatedly dunking back in the spirit. Each time you spin the bearing, dissolved grease and oil will run out of the bearing. When the bearing is free of grease and oil it will spin totally freely. Put all the parts aside to dry completely before re-lubing. For grease, you'll need to use reel grease or marine grease. They are specifically formulated for working in water/salt-water environments. CHeers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulch Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 cheers slinky - i checked link - that is great will use that guide tonight - and will just focus on the gears and bearings so my shopping list for this arvo is Small screwdriver set White Spirit Marine Grease Brush i used to do this as a kid - its slowly coming back to me, and now will be of massive benefit going forward pehaps the rogue wave is a blessing in disguise!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulch Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) this marine grease is really hard to find - i found them online but i want to do this today will ****** or super cheap auto have them? the marinas down my way close at 5pm, and no hardware stores stock it can i try the generic REEL grease from the local tacklstore Edit: Auto store has the Shell Nautilis Multipurpose Marine - Looks like its my only choice Edited July 27, 2011 by kulch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 this marine grease is really hard to find - i found them online but i want to do this today will ****** or super cheap auto have them? the marinas down my way close at 5pm, and no hardware stores stock it can i try the generic REEL grease from the local tacklstore Edit: Auto store has the Shell Nautilis Multipurpose Marine - Looks like its my only choice Hi Kulch, Daiwa reel grease is a good option and pretty readily available. For marine grease, I'd recommend sticking with a well known quality brand... Evinrude and Yamaha I've had experience with. The blue Daiwa reel grease is very similar to these 2. There are plenty of brands of reel grease and as long as it's not some no-name brand you should be fine. Cheers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulch Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) well some good news i found some quantum hot sauce, which i have on me, and sourced some yahama multi purpose marine which is due friday i cant believe i got my old reel (which is had when i was 14) working again - i got underneath last night and secured a loose part and now its working again!!! - i just gotto do the cleaning out business, and i have some other reels i have lurking worth attending - try and get my whole fleet back in tip top order - the penn is the ultimate project thanks for all your help slinky Edited July 27, 2011 by kulch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulch Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 So i've done it - a service I stripped the penn - it 100% had corrosion seeping into the main bearing under the spool - its an epic discovery, like finding a tumour in a haystack - i found rust and all this gunk which was 100% purely from the rogue wave............cleaned it in 'white spirit' .............removed all the corrosion - dry and regrease and guess what - the penn feel better than it did brand new.........................its not even making the squeeky noise from the rubbing metals. Tonigh the Sedona get serviced as that also got hammered by the water............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 Nice work, Kulch. You get a real sense of satisfaction from servicing your own reels too. Cheers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinfisher 4.9 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 My bit on this, agree they must be serviced ASAP after a dunking. Do not continue to use the reel on that trip and if you have fresh water available and a suitable container, dunk it again......... and keep it in fresh water until it can be serviced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfisherman Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I was down @ BCF at warrawong a couple of weeks ago, checking out some minnows, and a group of 3 young blokes were looking at the reels in the display cabinet. One of them said quite loudly, " Check out that Alvey - why do they still sell 40 year old technology!!! It's old junk!" I was thinking to myself, well actually it's more like 70 year old technology, based on ancient hand line technology. Still, I've got about a dozen different Alvey reels. Only ever had one failure - after it got whipped out of the boat rod holder, when a bungie strap broke, travelling down from cooktown to port douglas about 20 years ago. The reel took 3 hard direct hits to the road (we were travelling at about 120) and by the time we stopped and retrieved it, were sure it was stuffed. the stainless backing plate was bent on the curve badly, and that was it. 15 minutes on the gunwhale with a small hammer and a piece of driftwood, and she was back in service. Hooked a coral trout with it once we got out there too. When we got home I ordered a new backing plate and spindle. Still have it sitting at my old man's place. Don't like these new fancy plastic versions though. Still prefer the stainless backing plates. I have to laugh at people who think that you need modern technology to catch a good fish. Hell, even a handline works, and you wont have wasted a grand of your hard-earned. Every time I hear someone criticizing an Alvey, I just think theyre a big-mouthed wanker who's fishing knowledge could be written in capital letters on the back of a 1c postage stamp. I agree with every thing you say except one thing... These new all plastic reels are lighter and belive it or not tougher. The guy from alvey drove his 4wd over the plastic backing plate to show how tough the material is, he drove over it didn't break it let alone deform it Harry If it's to good to be true, it usually is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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