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Egi Rods v Light Spin sticks

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i am sure this has been asked before

Can an Egi rod double up as a light spin rod, as well as, a ligh spin rod can double as an egi stick?

i ask because i am in this predicament

i currently have a 1-4kg light spin stick catana (cheapo) which i have used to catch many flatty over the years and lately all i am doing is going for sydney squid with it - generally catching a few squid each session

i just got a new Abu Garcia Orra SX Spin reel - these just came out - i am very happy with it - it needs a partner in crime

1. Do i get a specific Jap egi stick - looking to import a sephia BB or Yamashita Feeling shaft - these fetch for $200+

2. Do i get a light estury weapon like the Pflueger Patriarch - also above $200, but i hear these lay golden eggs - cant find a word wrong about them - but can they out egi the sephia or neory

bloody squid - they make me ask myself sooo many questions and go thru tackle like dirty socks - i just cant close them

Dam egi sticks - not sure if they really make that much of a difference, but if they can catch a flatty or 2 off the flats if i dont take my catana i am all for them

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Hi mate, I use my 1-3kg Patriarch XTR rod for squiding as well, I have the Patriarch reel, usually just change spools and run the mono for squid.

As you said, the rod lays golden eggs but worth every cent imho, i'm going to get the full range of them and get rid of my other rods in that range haha.

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I use my Okuma X-Factor squid rod for everything because I bought it for squid but its so good for everything else too especially land based due to the extra length.

Nice flats rod...long casts and slower action keeps those little trebles in.

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MMMMMM... Does anyone else think that perhaps it is just marketing BS that is telling us that our normal rods are all of a sudden not up to the task of catching the humble squid and we need to buy the latest $200+ rod to now catch them? And then of course we need the egi reel to go with it.

Would love to hear from people who have them if they have noticeably improved their catch rates...

Ben

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It's not hugely complicated or nonsensical - it makes enough sense for hardcore squid fishos to want to have a specialised rod. Softer action to keep the barbs in the soft flesh, longer rod to nail the jig a long way, long butts for two handed japanese jigging action.

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MMMMMM... Does anyone else think that perhaps it is just marketing BS that is telling us that our normal rods are all of a sudden not up to the task of catching the humble squid and we need to buy the latest $200+ rod to now catch them? And then of course we need the egi reel to go with it.

Would love to hear from people who have them if they have noticeably improved their catch rates...

Ben

There are a couple of spots where I catch squid just drifting two jigs on a handline whilst I fish with a rod. I don't think I will be going down the path of a "specialist" squid rod just because they give it a Japanese name when I know it isn't necessary

Dave

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I would only be buying a egi rod if I was only ever going to use it for squidding. Any light spin rod will do the job for squid

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I love long softish rods for ultralight luring. Been thinking the same thing as until very recently it was damn hard to find a 1-2kg rod over 7foot. Lot more around now than even just a few years ago. Have a 20 year old GLoomis jig flicker (which proudly states its 95 per cent graphite!) with a very soft action which has an uncanny ability to save light traces by securing jaw hinge hook ups when using tiny jigs and Fireline. It's taken a lot of flatties on 2kg trace and no4 and no6 hooked jigs. That parabolic action also keeps small hooks in soft mouths, as has already been written. Only thing which might put me off the squid rods is that a lot are actually meant to cast relatively heavy squid jigs, rather than the tiny almost weightless jigs I like.

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Its all a bunch of crap!! You can catch squid on any spin stick. The EGI phenomenon is a money spinning jaunt pioneered by the Japs.

That being said, I have several EGI rods but then again, I am a tackle slut. :thumbup:

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Its all a bunch of crap!! You can catch squid on any spin stick. The EGI phenomenon is a money spinning jaunt pioneered by the Japs.

That being said, I have several EGI rods but then again, I am a tackle slut. :thumbup:

Mate that comment made my day, cant stop laughing.

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Its all a bunch of crap!! You can catch squid on any spin stick. The EGI phenomenon is a money spinning jaunt pioneered by the Japs.

Then it's all crap and we should all go back to using cork hand lines.

I used a light spin rod for catching squid for over ten years and after recently buying a egi rod I can say that I'll never go back.

There is logic in the science behind egi rods that is plain as day to see.

Edited by reLapse

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i'm going to get the Sephia BB Egi rod

i lost 2 squid on the weekend - it came down to the rod, not my action, dam 2kg flicker isnt soft enough - i was watching them with my own eyes

i guess if the squid are in a hammering mood you could use any rod, but if they are picky and very gentle - the egi rod will provide an edge

and dont believe that egi rods are a gimmick - they would have said the same things about fishfinders and braid and now egi rods

everything is a gimmick at first, then its imitated

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I've always used shimano gear and was initially taken back by the sephia, but when I got the time to have a proper look at it I wasn't impressed.

I don't think it's worth the price tag, you'd be better off looking at others brands to be honest.

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I've always used shimano gear and was initially taken back by the sephia, but when I got the time to have a proper look at it I wasn't impressed.

I don't think it's worth the price tag, you'd be better off looking at others brands to be honest.

this is the Sephia BB - Not the Sephia AU (the Aus version australians are used to)

I have heard from various users the difference between BB and AU is lite n day, with the BB a proper Jap Egi stick

also heard the Sephia AU is a catana blank - whih would explain the gimmick sentiments around here

i read Shimano australia, discontinued the BB, release the AU for $160 as a catana blank, thus ripping hole in australians pockets - its the australian way for a long time now (ripping their own people off)

Then there is the Sephia Ci4 - the pinnacle of the Sephia line up

However relapse i have taken your solid advice before - if you have played with a BB and still didnt like hem - i will take a look at other Egi rods - the Naory Wand looks amazing but thats $300+

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Relapse & Kulch,

The two Egi rods I have (Daiko Escapade 8'6" & a Megabass Caiyen 7'8")are long a quite parabolic in action however, they are quite stiff and recover very quickly (i.e. not soft at all). They are great for casting and yes, will soften the pulse of a good squid and hence assisiting with keeping the jags embedded however, I have never experienced a marked difference over my 7 foot spinning rods (Loomis, custom rods etc - typical spinning rods).

The low rider guides don't give any extra casting distance and are no more tangle friendly than the new Fuji K series.

The handle set ups are a bit long for my personal taste however, this isn't a big issue.

I had a look at the Sephia and they are a very sloppy stick and nothing like a true Japanese designed and built Eging rod.

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i'm going to get the Sephia BB Egi rod

i lost 2 squid on the weekend - it came down to the rod, not my action, dam 2kg flicker isnt soft enough - i was watching them with my own eyes

i guess if the squid are in a hammering mood you could use any rod, but if they are picky and very gentle - the egi rod will provide an edge

and dont believe that egi rods are a gimmick - they would have said the same things about fishfinders and braid and now egi rods

everything is a gimmick at first, then its imitated

Mate if you are blaming a 2kg rod for not being soft enough I really dont think the EGI rods are going to make that much difference. If a squid hasn't been hooked properly i'm pretty sure, and i could be wrong here, that the magic EGI rod is going to reach down and hook it up any better..

I think to go along with the saying " everything is a gimmick at first, then it's imitated" you should have...

" a good tradesman never blames his tools "

and of course we can't forget the good one which has led to the success of products like EGI rods..

" There's a sucker born every minute " :074: :074:

Ben

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Mate if you are blaming a 2kg rod for not being soft enough I really dont think the EGI rods are going to make that much difference. If a squid hasn't been hooked properly i'm pretty sure, and i could be wrong here, that the magic EGI rod is going to reach down and hook it up any better..

I think to go along with the saying " everything is a gimmick at first, then it's imitated" you should have...

" a good tradesman never blames his tools "

and of course we can't forget the good one which has led to the success of products like EGI rods..

" There's a sucker born every minute " :074: :074:

Ben

yeah i know what you mean - i put my hand up - i am first to the google after pay day for more weapons, and it was my b'day so i though bugger it - lets splash on an EGI wand.

that cliche is cheeky too, the customer is always right :P

i guess thats what makes the fishing so challenging - if there was a right answer to everything, we'd all have the same gear.

cheers for feedback fellas

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However relapse i have taken your solid advice before - if you have played with a BB and still didnt like hem - i will take a look at other Egi rods

Sorry I totally didn't even realise you said the BB model, my mind went straight to the AU model.

I would hope it would be significantly better.

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i brought a eggi rod no good went back to a t curv much better

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Mate i use a tcurve t series (2-5kg lure weight 1-9gram) rod for my squidding, awesome rod, also use this rod for most my plastics fishing.

mick

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Most Jap egi rods are primarily designed as a SHORE CASTING rod. When fishing jetties or off a boat, a handline will work just as well, but when you need to cast out a 24gm jig out 70~80 metres from shore to reach the weed beds your typical 7ft bream rod (usually with a 12grm cast rating) will not be able to cast out nearly as far.

They are parabolic in action but quite stiff as they are designed to work the jigs back in a very agressive manner.

As for using a egi rod for fish, they are pretty crap... not half as sensitive in the tip as normal rods and to be honest they just don't feel right when working plastics or hardbods.

If you are looking for a rods to do it all, look at some Jap seabass rods. Similar length to the egi rods so great for casting but a more sensitive tip.

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