General Zod Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Hey, just want to know, if anyone knows is 100,000km to 120,000km on a diesel 4wd (Holden Captiva) a lot for a diesel engine. I heard a that diesel engines last longer, and they can do more kms before they start to play up. Can anyone shed some light on this. Just say the car has been looked after, serviced, and only driven suburbs, and no towing on it. Other words a lady driver owned it any info would be great even if it's a different 4WD. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoB Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 G'day Yeah generally a diesel will last 500,000+ if looked after. But diesels must be serviced regularly. Cheers Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catchin Jack Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 At 100000km it's still being run in, as long as they have been serviced every 10000km they should run for ever. I have a friend with a diesel hilux that has over 300000km on it and it runs like new still because it has been looked after. I have a diesel Pajero with 180000km on it and it runs well, i've only changed the injectors and glow plugs but that was from choice only. As long as oil and filters are done regularly it should be fine, you'll probably end up having to do the injectors and glow plugs eventually but these can be found cheap online. Do some research online about the vehicle and look for anything that may be an issue or common problem with them, also see if it has had any recalls and what they were. One thing I do is put ChemTech in every tank of fuel, it really helps keep things clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFB Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Diesels are like any other motor. It needs to be looked after. If they have been looked after, generally speaking they will outlast a petrol motor. Things to check is the r servicing records, does it blow smoke and carbon build up in the oil. Normally a diesel should not blow smoke and the oil should be clean. If it blows smoke or carbon in the oil, stay clear otherwise they are, generally, good reliable motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Hull Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Diesels are like any other motor. It needs to be looked after. If they have been looked after, generally speaking they will outlast a petrol motor. Things to check is the r servicing records, does it blow smoke and carbon build up in the oil. Normally a diesel should not blow smoke and the oil should be clean. If it blows smoke or carbon in the oil, stay clear otherwise they are, generally, good reliable motors. Awesome nice to know, I'm also looking at getting a diesel engine. I'm guessing best way to check the oil is via the dip stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherman666 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 All IMHO of course. A. 100k is young even for petrol motor. And very young for a diesel. The more important question is, are those kays alot for that year model? If so, then this will affect your re-sale and the ease of moving it on one day. B. I wouldn't call this car a 4wd as there is no low range. C. Many modern diesel injection systems these days are known to 'play up' at relatively young age. Try googling Toyota D4D injector problems or Nissan ZD30. My mate spent over $2500 on new injectors for his late model hilux D4D at around 100k. He wasn't happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reyzor Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 the old deisels are far tougher than the new ones...... though that many KM's on a motor isnt much, as long as its been looked after..... remember deisels dont like short stop start journeys.... they are far better if they have seen a few country miles..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewhunter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 It is young for a diesel. However I am not a big fan of 4 cylinder diesel engines. A bit of black smoke is not too much to worry about. It is generally excess fuel being burnt off. White smoke coming out of a diesel engine is bad news. If you see this don't buy it! Cheers, Grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Zod Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Wow, what great input. Thanks everyone for the info, good to hear there strong motors. The wife well be very happy now, she's been looking like crazy just was worried about the kms, but all good now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoB Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Also don't forget the make-up of diesel has changed over the years. It now lacks the lubrication properties of yesteryear due to misguided international treaties. Probably the biggest factor is cars/4wds are the same as anything these days, built to fail to keep service sectors going, not built to last... Cheers Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catchin Jack Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Basically, smoke from a diesel engine indicates that something is not right. It should be taken as an indication that there is a problem existing (or developing), that will potentially shorten the engine life, or result in unnecessary costs. It should be regarded as an opportunity to take measures that will save you money in both the long term and also the short term. At the least, that smoke may be due to a simple problem, that is causing poor combustion efficiency…and costing you in excessive fuel bills (eg carboned up engine from excessive idling, stop start operation or short run times). At the other end of the scale, it may be your last chance to act, before a catastrophic engine failure occurs (eg piston seizure, valve or turbocharger failure). A diesel engine in good condition should produce no visible smoke from the exhaust, under most operating conditions. A short puff of smoke when an engine is accelerated under load may be acceptable, due to the lag before the turbocharger speed and air flow is able to match the volume of diesel injected into the cylinders. That would only apply to older technology diesel engines, but with modern type diesels, no smoke at all should be evident. There are three basic types of diesel smoke, identifiable by their colour... Black, Blue and White In the outlines below we explain what causes each colour of diesel smoke and provide you with links to high quality products that will help you solve these problems.... Black smoke is the most common smoke emitted from diesel engines. It indicates poor and incomplete combustion of the diesel fuel. There are many causes, including… Incorrect timing Dirty or worn injectors Over-fuelling Faulty turbocharger (ie not enough air to match the fuel) Incorrect valve clearance Incorrect air/fuel ratio Low cylinder compression (eg sticking piston rings or worn components) Dirty air cleaner Restricted induction system (eg system too small or kinked inlet piping) Other engine tune factors Poor quality fuel Excessive carbon build up in combustion and exhaust spaces Cool operating temperatures Blue smoke is an indication of oil being burnt. The oil can enter the combustion chamber for several reasons. Worn valve guides or seals Wear in power assemblies (ie cylinders, piston rings, ring grooves) Cylinder glaze Piston ring sticking Incorrect grade of oil (eg oil too thin, and migrating past the rings) Fuel dilution in the oil (oil thinned out with diesel) White smoke occurs when raw diesel comes through the exhaust completely intact and unburned. Some causes of this include… Faulty or damaged injectors Incorrect injection timing (could be a worn timing gear or damaged crankshaft keyway). Low cylinder compression (eg caused by leaking or broken valves, piston ring sticking, cylinder and/or ring wear, or cylinder glaze) Above referenced from HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Hull Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I have seen 1st hand where a guy overflowed his engine with oil, I.e. filled it past the Max indicator on the dipstick, and I saw white smoke instead of blue. It perhaps could have been blue, but when observing without concentrating its white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawkesbass Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) All IMHO of course. A. 100k is young even for petrol motor. And very young for a diesel. The more important question is, are those kays alot for that year model? If so, then this will affect your re-sale and the ease of moving it on one day. B. I wouldn't call this car a 4wd as there is no low range. C. Many modern diesel injection systems these days are known to 'play up' at relatively young age. Try googling Toyota D4D injector problems or Nissan ZD30. My mate spent over $2500 on new injectors for his late model hilux D4D at around 100k. He wasn't happy I can comment on the nissan zd30 just did injector pump total cost parts and labour came out at $4900 bucks and i did not do the injectors they were going to be another $2000 on top.I got too 200000 kays from mine which is a good run the injector specialist told me it normally goes at 100000 kays or about then. Nissan also makes these non rebuidable as they are electronic. As long as it is serviced the captiva will be fine i would not tow much more than a descent tinnie with it i would not tow 5+ meters of a glass boat. Edited December 13, 2013 by hawkesbass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherman666 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Ouch! All this power and good fuel economy we get in our modern machines comes at a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawkesbass Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Yes it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testlab Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 There isn't much in common between old diesels and new lightweight turbo diesels other than they are both compression ignition engines. I think longevity is going to have a lot to do with how they are driven and how they are maintained. It will be interesting to see how these new generation TDi's last in the marine environment as they are starting to appear in a number of variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paikea Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Thanks Catching Jack for details of what causes different colours of smoke from a diesel. That is the most comprehensive description that I have ever read. I have a Diesel Pajero and could not be happier with its performance. Whilst I normally change my (company) cars every 3 years the plan for this one is to hang onto it for at least 300,000.Kms. Cheers Paikea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locodave Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Mate a holden captiva doesnt have good reviews. Do some research first. Ks are low for a diesel but make sure it has log books. Are you getting one under warranty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batfishing Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Don't buy it. The Captiva Diesel has an issue with the engine letting go at low Kms. My secretary experienced this at Christmas Time last year. 3 months and 10,000k past the warranty, Holden would accept nothing. It was $7k for a 2nd hand motor fitted. There is a Holden bulletin out on an issue with them. Search the Holden forums. Buy something else, at the end of the day it isn't a Holden anyway Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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