dinos22 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) Hey guysI figured i might put a thread up to share my little upgrade done on the Daiwa Saltist 6500H. For all the guys that have these reels you probably already know you have crappy plastic bushes instead of proper ball bearings in your line roller. Mine was pretty obvious when it ceased on my second or third outing just about and I've been lazy and putting off getting this stuff sorted out properly. I must say I'm disappointed in Daiwa's tightarse design here with such a decent reel otherwise. What were they thinking sticking those plastic things in there in first place?!?FYI if you are thinking about doing this you can get Daiwa Australia to do it for you and they will charge $42 ($32 for two bearings and $10 for labour). The other thing you can do is jump on ebay and buy it a lot cheaper and replace yourself. I ended up buying the bearings, carbontex drag washer upgrades and Cal's grease cheaper than what Daiwa would have charged for just the bearings upgrade!Anyways let's get cracking with some shots. I figured most guys here already know what they are doing anyway but the shots and thread might come up in google search and it would be handy for people that have never done this sort of thing before.FYI removing this screw was actually pretty tough and i probably should have used some silicone spray first to hopefully loosen it up. You can see the white residue/salt water corrosion.Another shot of the internals, looks pretty bad and it gave me trouble removing this plastic bushing. I had to use a couple of stanley knives to slowly remove the first plastic bushing and it then came out.Saltwater doing its thing, no wonder it wasnt turning. Why would Daiwa stick this cheap piece of crap in there seriously!Saltwater crystals upcloseGave it a quick cleanPlastic crapGave it a very light coat of grease, probably not needed but i did anywayProper roller bearing is in on the inner side towards the bail wire Edited February 6, 2013 by dinos22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Completed this job, screwed it back in and it was nice and snug, rotating with light finger pressure. Before this change i could not move the line roller for the life of me as it was well and truly ceasedCarbontex drag upgradeTime to make this drag smoother even though i can't say it was bad in first place but heck since it didnt cost a great deal why not upgrade this as well right...If you've never taken one of these out it's dead easy. Take the metal clip out that's holding the drag stack firstAll the bits are out, I basically just tapped the spool upside down and they are popped out in their original order which i will use to insert them back in one by one after greasing them with some proper grease first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 This is what the original drag stack looks like (upside down)These are the new carbontex drag washersHere is what they look like side by side with the older drag washers (left original, right new carbontex washer)Cal's grease, message it into that carbontex washer texture like a bhooooss...and start putting them back one by one (notice the greased up carbontex washer).One last thing to be mindful of before you're done. You need to make sure the metal clip fits into the groove that you can see in this shot above the drag stack!All done, hope it helps someone out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfisherman Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Nice thread mate, good detail, great pictures...and couldn't agree more with your rant... Fishingphase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewie Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Thanks for the info. I am doing a similar thing with my Saltist 6500. I love the reel but i have snapped the Airbail once due to a fault, not rough handling it. a few questions. I have the carbontex already, did you use the 1mm thick stuff? and did you use a drill to cut the washers? also can you let me know where you purchased the Cals grease and the tiny ball bearings. PM is fine. I was waiting to purchase it when i was in the USA next but it seems like you had some luck online. how was the drag after the upgrade? Smoother, more drag pressure? regards chewie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 Hi mate I bought ready made drag washers off eBay you can just search under saltist 6500 carbon washers. You can also find bearings from the same seller by searching for cal's grease and saltist 6500 roller bearings I've fished since but haven't landed anything mate and have really done any measuring with the scales what the max drag pressure was and I wouldn't really go past 8-10kg MAX if I was forced to put pressure on the fish. The drag seems smooth but until I get some decent fish on it it's hard to tell. Its a lot easier to spin with bigger lures now with a proper working line roller. Thanks for the info. I am doing a similar thing with my Saltist 6500. I love the reel but i have snapped the Airbail once due to a fault, not rough handling it. a few questions. I have the carbontex already, did you use the 1mm thick stuff? and did you use a drill to cut the washers? also can you let me know where you purchased the Cals grease and the tiny ball bearings. PM is fine. I was waiting to purchase it when i was in the USA next but it seems like you had some luck online. how was the drag after the upgrade? Smoother, more drag pressure? regards chewie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewie Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Thanks mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Just an update on this. It's been a while since I've done this upgrade and I can confirm my line roller still works great and drag is just as good. Highly recommended for anyone using these reels! Edited February 24, 2015 by dinos22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_ Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Thanks mate. I keep hearing about this problem and I think I'll upgrade mine before I have any trouble. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Yeah i would do this with a brand new reel if i was to get another one honestly. Drag is not that big a deal but line roller ball bearing fix is a must... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock&Beach Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Cheers mate I have a 4500 and was struggling with heavier lures my roller was seized as well so just gave it a quick grease until I can upgrade. By the way great tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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