ID Fish. "Sand Mullet and Silver Trevally"

[Chasin'tale]

Caught these mullet at The Entrance. Thinking bottom is a sand mullet but not sure if top one is same species

Caught this trevally at The Entrance also, don't think it's a juvenile silver trevally though. Any feedback would be helpful, thanking you guys in advance

[Volitan]

Right hand fish in last photo is a sand mullet. The orange spot in front of the pectoral is diagnostic, as is the round black spot at the top of the pectoral fin base. In the sea mullet, the pectoral spot is blue and more elongate.

the one on the left is harder to see - can’t be sure.

Edited April 29, 2018 by Volitan

[Blackfish]

The Mullet looks a tad old (Eyes are dull and body dried out) so hard to ID, but I would say a Sea Mullet. "Mugil cephalic Linnaeus"

And the Trevally I would call a Long Nose Trevally. "Carangoides chrysophrys"

Always happy to be wrong though. 

BF

Edited April 24, 2018 by Blackfish

[Chasin'tale]

Thanks for the response BF. These are the mullet before they went in the freezer the night before if it helps. Always value your opinion ?

[Blackfish]

I recon your right Volition on the Mullet, but I'm still going Long Nose Trevally. 

[Volitan]

Well, maybe, but what is there about it that makes you think it’s not a silver trevally.

it seems to have all the Id features of a silver trevally to me.

[Blackfish]

Yes you are right Volitan, Silver Trevally.. Pseudocaranx georgianus

Thanks.

 

[Chasin'tale]

Mate at work says blue trevally?????. Caught a silver trevally before and had no stripes like this.

[Blackfish]

The stripes are sometimes  noticeable on Silvers, maybe its the mood they are in at the time.

Blue Trevallly don't have the black spot on the top of their Gill Plate (operculum) and this one has.

[Chasin'tale]

Thanks BF always happy to learn a few things from the more experienced fishermen. Never knew that about the silver trevally. When I looked at pics online of the blue trevally the markings looked similar but I noticed the blues tail is more deeply forked then the 3 silvers I pulled in at The Entrance. All 3 of them had the stripes but they weren't big fish. Just a side note all 5 of my kids caught at least 1 fish that day. Great seeing my kids learning the species of fish they catch and they enjoy watching them swim away when they release them.

[Yowie]

Mullet with smaller tail - sand mullet

Mullet with larger tail - flat tail mullet?