Gengar Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Recently bought new heavier 50lb mono leader (its 0.61mm) but find it hard to tie it onto hooks. Normally i use the improved clinch knot and snelled hooks but find that even if i pull very hard the loose end can still be untied if pushed the right way. Tried googling but nothing quite work especially if i want to tie double snelled hooks. Any advice on how you guys tie these heavier leaders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonywardle Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 when I am moving up in leader size, the Uniknot is the way to go you can go snell top hook and uniknot below 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Make sure with the clinch you are lubricating the line well when pulling it together. With the Snell there are different versions Try this one There should be no reason you can't lose 50lb for both these knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the skipper Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Mate my go to knot is the uni knot for everything ... just my preference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelm Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Yep agree, uniknot every time, never been a huge fan of Snelling, especially if the eye is not joined, some hooks have a very sharp end where they are bent over to the shank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonywardle Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I like the snell, but i need to have them pre-rigged and they are pretty good with the circle hooks If I retie out on the water then I go with the uni-knot. Its fast to do, well faster than the other knots for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gengar Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 hours ago, kingie chaser said: Make sure with the clinch you are lubricating the line well when pulling it together. With the Snell there are different versions Try this one There should be no reason you can't lose 50lb for both these knots. Ok let me try this. Its slightly different to the one I usually tie but let me see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gengar Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 Guys thanks so much for all the response. I haven't looked at the uni knot before but let me search youtube! Also generally for the end of the leader that ties to the swivel I would make a loop knot so that I can switch leaders easily. I dont know what the knot i make is called but again I find that when using the 50lb leader the knot doesnt hold well. Any advice on how to make a loop knot (not sure if that is the correct name for the knot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gengar said: Guys thanks so much for all the response. I haven't looked at the uni knot before but let me search youtube! Also generally for the end of the leader that ties to the swivel I would make a loop knot so that I can switch leaders easily. I dont know what the knot i make is called but again I find that when using the 50lb leader the knot doesnt hold well. Any advice on how to make a loop knot (not sure if that is the correct name for the knot). What are you tying with the loop?? I would recommend you do some research on what knots are for what applications. There are dropper loops, loops like Rapala or perfection for tying to bibbed lures etc. https://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelm Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Not exactly sure what you mean by tieing a loop knot to change leaders easy, I don't like loops for attaching anything (except a proper loop knot on a lure) but any of those dropper loops for looping over hooks and swivels are next to useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelm Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, Gengar said: Guys thanks so much for all the response. I haven't looked at the uni knot before but let me search youtube! Also generally for the end of the leader that ties to the swivel I would make a loop knot so that I can switch leaders easily. I dont know what the knot i make is called but again I find that when using the 50lb leader the knot doesnt hold well. Any advice on how to make a loop knot (not sure if that is the correct name for the knot). The uni knot is probably the easiest to tie, has good strength, can be used on thick or thin line and also a double uni can be used to join lines, even of different thickness.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gengar Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, kingie chaser said: What are you tying with the loop?? I would recommend you do some research on what knots are for what applications. There are dropper loops, loops like Rapala or perfection for tying to bibbed lures etc. https://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots Hey kingie really appreciate all your advice and tip on this and the other thread! I found the loop knot that I have been tying which is called the king sling. Unfortuately it just keeps on slipping. I just want to tie a knot so that I can clip it on the swivel. Its just easier if I want to change leaders I just unclip the old one and clip on the new leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gengar said: Hey kingie really appreciate all your advice and tip on this and the other thread! I found the loop knot that I have been tying which is called the king sling. Unfortuately it just keeps on slipping. I just want to tie a knot so that I can clip it on the swivel. Its just easier if I want to change leaders I just unclip the old one and clip on the new leader. All good, we all need to start somewhere & the learning journey never ends I didn't know the name of that one but I use that knot for the bottom of my paternoster rig for loop for my snapper sinker. Never really thought about using it as a terminal swivel knot. I must admit if I am using a general knot for swivels or hooks it is the uni, it is a good strong knot easy & fast to tie, if I want a up it a bit I use a trilene that doubles the loop for some extra strength. Give them a go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berleyguts Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Gengar said: Hey kingie really appreciate all your advice and tip on this and the other thread! I found the loop knot that I have been tying which is called the king sling. Unfortuately it just keeps on slipping. I just want to tie a knot so that I can clip it on the swivel. Its just easier if I want to change leaders I just unclip the old one and clip on the new leader. I know what you mean there. I clip leaders on to my ball bearing snap swivels on my game rods, e.g. skirted lures on mono, Jinkai or wire leaders; or live bait bridle rigs; or skip bait rigs. The lightest leader I am using at the moment is 70lb and I crimp a loop with a nylon sleeve in it, which protects the loop. Lighter leaders for paternoster rigs for bottom bashing, I use 30 or 40lb mono and just tie them to a stainless steel ring with a uni knot and clip the snap swivel to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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