kilp Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Hi All I am reaching out to anyone who may be able to help me with the art of blackfishing. I have been very frustrated the last 3 trip, I believe I need someone to perhaps teach me a few things " onsite ". If anyone here is planning a blackfishing trip any day, I would really appreciate it if I could come along and learn, I am even willing to pay for your time. Thanks everyone, looking forward to responses. Cheers Kilp ( Luis ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) Have a look through these posts, should give you some great info- Also if you search through the reports you will find out who frequently targets them, there are a few regulars you could send a PM to. Good luck. Edited August 3, 2020 by kingie chaser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilp Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Thanks Kingie Chaser, appreciate your response. I have pm'd someone hoping for a response. Ive done alot of research and spoken to my local fish and tackle shop in Kings Park, but somehow cant seem to get it together on the water. I know Im doing something wrong, just cant pin it. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, kilp said: Thanks Kingie Chaser, appreciate your response. I have pm'd someone hoping for a response. Ive done alot of research and spoken to my local fish and tackle shop in Kings Park, but somehow cant seem to get it together on the water. I know Im doing something wrong, just cant pin it. Cheers No problem, its definately an artform & takes knowing the rig set up more than anything. My father was an avid luderick fisho & tried to teach me on several occassions but at the time I wasnt really interested in that style of fishing which was a big mistake in hindsight. I do understand the principals & tried a few times since not very successfully but just never got into it. In saying that I should persist at it & your right having a guru to show you 1st hand about the rig certainly saves time & pain. So good luck & hope it works out Edited August 3, 2020 by kingie chaser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekD Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 What locations are you able to fish or alternatively where are you based. Sydney is a pretty big place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilp Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Hi Derek I live in Rouse Hill, in the Sydney norwest area. I travel for work, so I have no problem travelling to most locations to fish. If your able to help me out, that would be fantastic, let me know. and thanks for responding to my post. Cheers Luis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekD Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Can probably arrange something. Was going to collect some cabbage weed on Thursday afternoon for fishing this weekend but weather forecast is not good for the weekend. Will have to see if the Bureau Of Misinformation (a term a friend of mine uses) is true to form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savit Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, DerekD said: Can probably arrange something. Was going to collect some cabbage weed on Thursday afternoon for fishing this weekend but weather forecast is not good for the weekend. Will have to see if the Bureau Of Misinformation (a term a friend of mine uses) is true to form. They use weather prediction model developed for Europe - thats why results are upside down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilp Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 8/3/2020 at 10:27 PM, DerekD said: Can probably arrange something. Was going to collect some cabbage weed on Thursday afternoon for fishing this weekend but weather forecast is not good for the weekend. Will have to see if the Bureau Of Misinformation (a term a friend of mine uses) is true to form. DerekD Please keep me informed regarding your next outing, as I would really appreciate tagging along if o.k with you. Cheers Luis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekD Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, kilp said: DerekD Please keep me informed regarding your next outing, as I would really appreciate tagging along if o.k with you. Cheers Luis Hi Luis, We should be able to sort something out. Just some things to think about in the mean time. I am a bit of a generalist when it comes to fishing. I know enough to target most bread and butter species (bream, flathead, whiting, luderick, etc.) successfully but there are luderick specialists on Fishraider that are still worth reaching out to. Having said that, if I want to catch luderick I can but it may take a few location changes on the day. They are also the species I target when introducing people to fishing as they are pretty reliable to catch, the float provides a visual feedback and for their size they fight really well. I've gone the 2-4kg spin gear (rather than super long rod and centrepin reel) route and have one spool with 8lb mono just for this. I've also branched out into luderick on fly gear and weed fly and it has surprised me to see them taking the fly without burley but where possible I will use burley to fire them up. The weed flies allow me to head down to the water for a spontaneous session without having to sort out the weed. The typical material list I use for a session out: A source of weed - my preference is cabbage weed as I have several locations I can use. I only take as much as I need for a session (small ziplock bag). About 80% gets used as burley and the rest for on the hook A small bucket and some moist (not wet) sand A sharp knife and small chopping block - you want to cut it up the weed as fine as you can for mixing in with the sand Something to fling the sand and weed mix (burley) with - for years I did it by hand but had to clean them each time before touching the rod and reel 2-4kg rod with 8lb (or 6lb mono). If they are really picky then you will want to drop down to a really fine line at the working end. Float stop (rubber balls which slide onto and then up and down the line - they friction lock onto the line). Get as small as you can that will both hold the float in place and also pass through the guides. Float (luderick - with brightly coloured top) Sinker(s) of sufficient weight so the float is just positive buoyant. In my case I've worked out a float and sinker combination which just works without stuffing around with smaller pieces of lead to find that sweet spot of flotation. Swivel (optional but makes it easier to drop down from 8lb to 6lb or smaller at the working end) Hooks - my go to are Gamakatsu Pan Fish and usually a size #6 but also have some bigger and smaller In some ways knowing where they are is the hardest part of it (they can shift around and in some locations the tidal flow can have a big impact). Once you find where they are it is not usually hard to catch them. Regards, Derek PS - I fish the lower North Shore (Neutral Bay, Mosman, Cremorne). I fish most weekends but have also been taking Friday's off here and there as I have too many hols saved up. Edited August 5, 2020 by DerekD 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirellaMan Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 This is a really good blog and podcast on catching blackfish: https://www.salamanderbaittackle.com.au/how-to-catch-luderick-nelson-bay-break-wall/ Armed with this and the info in the two posts referred to above, you should get a few. GirellaMan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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